Come on, England !!!

Take the course, pay the money and pass, then you'll know. And get cheaper
insurance.

But what I was referring to was what the IAM - and good driving
instructors - say about considering the motivations of other drivers.

Ali

 

What makes you think that? The Driving Standards Agency's own
explanatory leaflet DL25D says only:

18 Use of speed
You should make safe, reasonable progress along the road
bearing in mind the road, traffic and weather conditions and the
road signs and speed limits.Make sure that you can stop safely,
well within the distance you can see to be clear. Do not speed.

If that requires 20mph, then that is how fast you should drive and no more.


--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

 

Indeed - if you choose to drive well below the speed limit, and well below
the speed of other drivers, you need to be aware of the effect on others.

See Paul Ripley's well-known article:

http://www.speedlimit.org.uk/art_slowdrive.html

 

That would be Ripley's "Believe it or not?"

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
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Because, assuming that the conditions are suitable or that your vehicle is
not in some other way limited, it's true. If you do 40 in a 60 will
fail just about any driving test


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While irrelevent to my point, it surprises me somewhat that 40mph is
somewhere below the minimum required speed to pass a test on roads
where 60mph is the limit. Indeed, in many cases 40mph would seem to
be an excessive speed for a 60mph limit road.

Of course, while recommended, there is no requirement for a great many
road users to take a test.

 

Big assumption there. What if the conditions are not suitable, as they
often are not. Plenty of unrestricted country lanes out there where
40mph would be way in excess of the distance you can see to be clear, or
indeed the speed almost anyone would try driving down them. Do you fail
for not driving down unrestricted country lanes at 60mph?


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his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
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Not half as upset as they are when they're in a huge motorway jam
because some numpty has smeared his plastic shed across three lanes of
motorway.

 

You have a point here. How many caravanners really know about towing?
How to do it, safe axle limits, loading, tyre pressures, braking and
(let's not forget) reversing. Not many, I'll be bound.

 

Oooh! Oooh!

Are we going to have another one of those "speed kills" and "exceeding
speed limits is dangerous" lectures? Please? Pretty please?

 

Not necessarily correct.

 

Basically, yes it is.

I love it when people trot out this old "death" thing.

Look, sweetie. Every aspect of human activity carries some risk. Motor
travel does too. There will always be deaths and injuries on the road as
long as road travel exists.

So... you have to decide whether the benefits outweigh the casualties.
And the anser, really, is (in the UK, where the death rate is remarkably
low), "yes".

If you disagree, please tell us exactly what you would consider to be an
acceptable number of fatalities.

The old chestnut: "Well, every death is a tragedy, so ideally, none..."
won't work. be realistic.

 

Oh yes.

 

Or say £300 for a week's half board in a French hotel, and you can have
somebody do the cooking and washing up as well.

Oh, forgot - half the fun of caravanning is taking two weeks' supply of
baked beans with you....

 

Nice one, Steve. Hooked him first try.

 

People collect beer mats and they're not worth anything either.

 

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:30:46 +0100, Phil Clarke wrote:


The irony of an international football fan telling other people to grow up
is delicious.

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Nonsense. Even in perfect conditions 40mph on a great many 60mph
limit roads can be reckless.

 

And by exactly the same logic (leaving aside the injunction not to
speed), 100mph could be safe as well.