Come on, England !!!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Paul - xxx, Jun 10, 2006.

  1. Paul - xxx

    Conor Guest

    So you don't know. So as you also don't know how to drive a fully
    loaded 53ft long lorry how would you know it isn't being driven
    professionally?
     
    Conor, Jun 20, 2006
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  2. Paul - xxx

    Alex Heney Guest

    If he didn't, then what on earth was he doing coming round a blind
    corner so fast?

    It's bad enough when you do know it, and are just assuming there won't
    be anything obstructing the road that isn't there every day. But when
    you don't even know the road, it is even worse.

    But however badly the other driver was behaving, that is no excuse for
    the OP to compound it by driving the way he did, but that is
    irrelevant to this particular point.
     
    Alex Heney, Jun 20, 2006
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  3. Paul - xxx

    les Guest

     
    les, Jun 20, 2006
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    les Guest

     
    les, Jun 20, 2006
  5. Paul - xxx

    Alex Heney Guest

    As I said to Brimstone, it will depend on the context. There is no
    single definition of "behaving in a professional manner".
    Quite easily in many cases. With difficulty in others.

    There are some behaviours which are clearly not driving in a
    professional manner - such as changing lanes without warning, varying
    speed significantly without cause (such as hills or other vehicles),
    various other things which are obvious when you see them.

    Then there would be the unobvious things which would apply to any
    driver doing them, such as driving when tired, or when not paying
    attention to the road.

    And then there are the even less obvious things such as driving in a
    manner that is harmful to the vehicle, that I agree nobody who does
    not drive that type of vehicle is likely to be aware of.


    Of the visibly obvious things (which are obviously all I can judge
    on), I see far fewer examples from LGV drivers than I do from car and
    van drivers.
     
    Alex Heney, Jun 20, 2006
  6. Paul - xxx

    Conor Guest

    How do you know what speed he was doing? I had one twat in a village
    accuse me of speeding in a 40 limit just after a S bend. I got out and
    showed him my tacho which showed just under 30.
    Perhaps you should have stopped toying with him and making it worse.
     
    Conor, Jun 20, 2006
  7. Paul - xxx

    Conor Guest

     
    Conor, Jun 20, 2006
  8. Paul - xxx

    Conor Guest

     
    Conor, Jun 20, 2006
  9. Conor wrote
    I don't think that is right. I think that his sentence, whatever the
    spelling, is constructed proper. A two part sentence with a comma
    delimiting the question bit and the other bit is perfectly fine.


    Oh look auvache giving grammar advice, now there is a thing you don't
    see often do you?
     
    steve auvache, Jun 20, 2006
  10. Paul - xxx

    les Guest

     
    les, Jun 20, 2006
  11. Paul - xxx

    les Guest

     
    les, Jun 20, 2006
  12. Paul - xxx

    Conor Guest

    But obviously far less ignorant than you.
     
    Conor, Jun 20, 2006
  13. Paul - xxx

    les Guest


    in your mind only, I am not foul mouthed like you which to me and so many
    others is just a sign of ignorance, but then you don't need my help to prove
    that as you show that on here with all your swearing and foul mouthed
    claptrap.

    Point proven.

    By the way you must get lots of holidays to be on here so much or are you
    typing on your laptop as you drive and thus getting ready to cause an
    accident which you will claim was the fault of a caravan in front of you

    GROW UP
     
    les, Jun 20, 2006
  14. Paul - xxx

    Brimstone Guest

    From many perspectives, that's a much over-rated activity.
     
    Brimstone, Jun 20, 2006
  15. Paul - xxx

    Alex Heney Guest

    I don't.

    I was just assuming that the OP was right in that.

    If he wasn't, then why would he have driven right up tight behind the
    OP?


    ???
    Was that supposed to mean something?
     
    Alex Heney, Jun 20, 2006
  16. Paul - xxx

    Conor Guest

    Unlike you I'm not a wage slave and I'm extremely good at what I do so
    therefore I can choose when I want to work. Other advantages are that I
    charge typically around 60% more than an employees hourly rate at my
    clients for driving and also get to write off a fair whack against tax
    so can work far less for the same money.

    I actually only need to work about 5-6 days a month to cover all the
    bills/mortgage/savings.
     
    Conor, Jun 20, 2006
  17. Paul - xxx

    Conor Guest

    Probably not. It's like the "Thundering juggernaut" headlines which I
    find hilarious when you think that they're limited to 56 and the
    journos are trying to make out that they're doing 70+.
    Could be the OP was doing 30 in a NSL like the old bloke I encountered
    on the A41 yesterday.
    Sorry, by "you" I actually meant the OP.
     
    Conor, Jun 20, 2006
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    les Guest

     
    les, Jun 20, 2006
  19. Paul - xxx

    Conor Guest

    How does that work then? Do I do it by telepathy?
    Really? For a start I'm actually UNDERCHARGING. I'm £2 per hr basic/£5
    per hr overtime cheaper than the employment agencies and if I was
    overcharging, I'd have no work would I?
    I'm a born and bred Yorkshireman - I say what I like and I like what I
    say.
    I have confidence in myself and my abilities which, going on your rant,
    it appears you don't.
     
    Conor, Jun 20, 2006
  20. Paul - xxx

    Tony Raven Guest

    Brimstone wrote on 20/06/2006 08:25 +0100:
    FSVO "decent". Take your choice from a proper dictionary (OED, although
    my money goes on A IIc here ;-)

    A. adj. I. {dag}1. Pertaining to or marking entrance into a
    religious order. Obs. rare{em}1.

    II. 2. Pertaining to, proper to, or connected with a or one's
    profession or calling.

    3. Engaged in one of the learned or skilled professions, or in a
    calling considered socially superior to a trade or handicraft.
    professional (middle) class, members of the learned and skilled
    professions regarded collectively. Freq. (with hyphen) attrib.

    4. a. That follows an occupation as his (or her) profession,
    life-work, or means of livelihood, as a professional soldier, musician,
    or lecturer; spec. applied to one who follows, by way of profession or
    business, an occupation generally engaged in as a pastime; hence used in
    contrast with amateur, as professional cricketer. Disparagingly applied
    to one who ‘makes a trade’ of anything that is properly pursued from
    higher motives, as a professional politician.
    professional beauty, humorously applied to a lady with the
    implication that she makes it her business to be a beauty, or to be
    known as such.

    b. Of play, sports, etc.: Undertaken or engaged in for money, or as
    a means of subsistence; engaged in by professionals (as distinct from
    amateurs).

    c. Disparagingly applied to one who pursues relentlessly an
    activity or belief that is regarded with disfavour; inveterate,
    habitual, ruthless.

    d. Reaching a standard or having the quality expected of a
    professional person or his work; competent in the manner of a professional.

    e. Of technical equipment: of a type or standard used by professionals.

    5. That is trained and skilled in the theoretic or scientific parts
    of a trade or occupation, as distinct from its merely mechanical parts;
    that raises his trade to the dignity of a learned profession.

    {dag}6. = PROFESSORIAL. Obs. rare.

    B. n.

    1. One who belongs to one of the learned or skilled professions; a
    professional man.

    2. a. One who makes a profession or business of any occupation,
    art, or sport, otherwise usually or often engaged in by amateurs, esp.
    as a pastime: see the adj., sense 4.

    b. spec. A prostitute. Cf. PROFESSION 6e.

    3. Univ. slang. Short for professional examination.
    In the Scottish Universities, the four necessary examinations for the
    degree of M.B.C.M. are commonly known as First, Second, and Third
    Professional, and Final.



    --
    Tony

    "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
    his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
    - Leonardo da Vinci
     
    Tony Raven, Jun 20, 2006
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