Cold Light of Day

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by sweller, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. sweller

    sweller Guest

    .... it's not too bad. Still runs, albeit on one cylinder. Rearsets will
    be expensive.

    Before:
    http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/guzzi_20070929_800.jpg

    After:
    http://sweller.dynalias.org/motosmackdown/img009.jpg

    "You want to see the damage..."
    http://sweller.dynalias.org/motosmackdown/

    Well, what happened was...

    I'd just left Cane's house and was about 5 or 10 minutes away when I came
    across a long queue of traffic at a pretty serious accident.

    After waiting at the front for twenty or so minutes as the fire brigade
    cut open a car and the dibbles pushed a small lorry out of the way I
    asked a plod how long they were going to be before anyone got moving.
    "Quite some time" he said and suggested an alternative route.

    So off I set sail up to about 50 or 60 mph on a 40 road see the back of a
    speed camera and just touch the brake.

    Next instance I was on the floor. So it's a bit slippery and my tyres
    and brakes are cold. The fishtailing as I accelerated should have been a
    clue...

    Dibble turn up from original accident and is concerned I don't have any
    road tax and it appears to have had one owner from new (not new but from
    date of registration, duh). Ambulance lady tries to feel me up and
    shines a light in my eye (it's so beautiful...)

    Anyway while this is going on the plod have re-opened the road so if I'd
    just waited another 5 minutes I would have probably had the opportunity
    to fall off on the roundabout instead.

    Cane and the lovely Heather come out to see if I'm ok. Which I am, just
    a bit battered in the pride and bike department.

    Hour and a half later, with a layer of ice on bike and gear, I'm in a
    breakdown truck. Ho hum.

    One problem is my winter gear has now been wrecked.
     
    sweller, Dec 17, 2007
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    DozynSleepy Guest

    That it's a Moto Guzzi ;-)
    It crashes well !

    Even with the extra photos I had to get out the magnifying glass.

    I shouldn't laugh, I've got to take the K75S on a 336 mile trip this
    Wednesday and it's looking very frosty.
     
    DozynSleepy, Dec 17, 2007
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Ah, annoying, an unexpected expense but not so bad. Comiserations.
    Happens to the best of us (I'm told).
    This would piss me off. My winter jacket is a truly cool 'n' groovy
    Spyke and I have a brand new pair of Wolf overtrousers. I'm currently
    riding even more carefully than usual.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 17, 2007
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    Dave Emerson Guest

    <snip sorry tale of woe>

    ....and it was only last week we were admiring those post-restoration pics.

    This could have been the one occasion when the OEM cast wheels may have been
    better then the spoked jobbies, as the extra weight would have increased
    grip and the CoG would have been lower. Not that either would have made
    that much of a real-world difference in the hands of such an "improved
    idiot".

    Are the janitors doing anything about the lack of tax disc or did he reckon
    you had suffered enough?

    So now you have some time over Xmas to recover but everywhere with the
    replacement parts will be closed.
     
    Dave Emerson, Dec 17, 2007
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    platypus Guest

    Is that all?
    Those linked brakes are lethal. A guy I know has a fair bit of metal
    holding him together because he didn't know about linked brakes on Guzzis,
    and decided to trail the rear brake a bit whilst piling a borrowed Cali into
    a bend.

    Of course, if you'd been on an outfit, none of this sliding around would
    have been a problem.
     
    platypus, Dec 17, 2007
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  6. sweller

    sweller Guest

    The cast wheels mean a higher unsprung weight, which has a more important
    effect on a day to day basis than a notional increase in grip on a road
    that, with my cold tyres, was essentially an ice rink.

    When I showed him the valid tax disc on the bike he shut up.

    No problem sourcing the parts but they won't be that cheap, even
    secondhand - it's something I can do without.
     
    sweller, Dec 17, 2007
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    sweller Guest

    It's the pain in the arse factor that's the pisser.
     
    sweller, Dec 17, 2007
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  8. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I don't agree. I'll happily use the linked brakes in a bend on a Tonti
    framed Guzzi.

    Anyway I used the front (hand) brake.

    Harlow to Hove would still have been quicker to crash the Guzzi and go in
    a breakdown truck than go on your outfit.
     
    sweller, Dec 17, 2007
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  9. sweller

    Dave Emerson Guest

    Yes "linked brakes" were the primary causal factor in the death of one of my
    best friends back in '78 - according to the coroner, though this was
    disputed by M-G UK.

    He missed a gear while pulling back into a queue of stationary traffic has
    was overtaking at slow speed. The loss of engine braking caused him to
    stomp on the "rear" brake pedal, which promptly locked the front wheel and
    caused it to tuck-under on the wet and greasy surface.
    He went out the side door and the cement truck coming the other way went
    right over him.

    The truck driver stopped and everyone feared the worse. They were
    initiallly relieved to see that the ground-clearance under the truck meant
    it had missed him completely, but then discovered he was dead as his neck
    had snapped in the initial fall.

    I took his gf to identify the body but at the last minute she couldn't face
    it, so I had to. There wasn't a mark on him.

    His parents gave away the T3 he was riding and I still have the Alfa Romeo
    1750 GTV that he used to drive and I spannered, but that's another story.

    So maybe Sweller got off lightly...
     
    Dave Emerson, Dec 17, 2007
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    platypus Guest

    They would say that, wouldn't they.
    He danger on the road.
     
    platypus, Dec 17, 2007
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  11. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I would say that too - can't see the problem.

    I would say that too - can't see the problem.
     
    sweller, Dec 17, 2007
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  12. sweller

    platypus Guest

    Well, sometimes shit just happens. I trust you made sure to mention to the
    nice officer that the primary cause of the accident was the speed camera?
    Mmm. According to google maps, it's about 85 miles, and mostly on motorways
    or main A roads. You'd be averaging 60-ish, so say an hour and a half. The
    Ural would do 40-ish, so about two hours. I can't see the breakdown truck
    averaging faster than 50, plus the call-out and loading times which you
    report as an hour and a half, and we're looking at a minimum of three and a
    half hours. By which time, on the Ural, you'd have been home, had your
    supper and settled down in front of a roaring fire with a nice mug of
    Horlicks and a well-thumbed copy of O S Nock's Historic Railway Disasters.
     
    platypus, Dec 17, 2007
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  13. I think I read that, or was it 'Great British Railway Disasters',
    riveting stuff anyway.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    "A scone and tea at half past three
    Makes the day a little brighter
    Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
    And stick them up your shiter."
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 17, 2007
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    Beav Guest

    I looked at the plug first and there's a definite lack of plug lead on the
    2nd pic. Also missing it's brake reservoir, so it's definitely different.


    --
    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Dec 17, 2007
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    muddy cat Guest

    I'm stuck there too. Where are the other three things different?
     
    muddy cat, Dec 17, 2007
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    Ofnuts Guest

    Broken footpeg (hangs off the brake rod, it seems), and scratches on the
    exhaust (lower bend and end). Brake reservoir is likely still here, but
    less visible (picture taked from a POV more aft, wheel turning left),
    would be the thing right above the headlight.
     
    Ofnuts, Dec 17, 2007
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    Muck Guest

    Doesn't look like much damage. :) It had been more than a little slippy
    recently hasn't it? I almost binned it at about 40 on the A27 the other
    day, dozy cow in a Jag pulled out on me. So when I'd recovered I did the
    sensible thing and wheelied past her on the inside.
     
    Muck, Dec 17, 2007
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    Lozzo Guest

    sweller says...
    The rearset looks repairable, if you can find a friendly bearded man
    with a machine shop in his back garden.

    --
    Lozzo
    Triumph Daytona 955i SE
    Suzuki SV650 K3
    Honda CBR600 F-W
    Yamaha SR250 SpazzTrakka
    Suzuki GSX-R750L
    Suzkui TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Dec 17, 2007
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    steveloukes Guest

    My commiserations.
    I have many spares , much cheapnesss , they are even in in bike shaped
    form already....


    Steve
     
    steveloukes, Dec 17, 2007
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  20. sweller

    platypus Guest

    I suppose. I've got linked brakes on the Wing, and I haven't crashed that
    yet.
    No problem, just an observation.
     
    platypus, Dec 17, 2007
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