Are now blown well and truly away. Decided despite the wind I'd go for a spin on the ZX (figured Brunstroms helicopter can't fly in this ... maybe ) Apart from bits of tree everywhere it was a good run out, so long as I kept it over 60 under that it got prone to gusting over that didn't notice any, even several occasions well in excess "Sorry ocifer, I had to "make progress" to stop being blown off" -- Steve Parry BMW R45, 01 Kawasaki ZX12-R, 07 K1200GT SE 95 BMW F650, 87 Yamaha FS1, Sukida SK90PY, 91 Kawasaki AR50, 07 VW Passat SE Estate for comfort www.gwynfryn.co.uk