Clutch kits

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Eddie, Nov 1, 2004.

  1. Eddie

    darsy Guest

    hahahhaha!
     
    darsy, Nov 1, 2004
    #21
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  2. Eddie

    darsy Guest

    oh - I thought you might be complaining about the stiffness. Surely the
    "problem"[1] with the biting point is adjustable?
    [1] I can't remember what it was like
     
    darsy, Nov 1, 2004
    #22
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  3. Eddie

    Champ Guest

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What? And you call yourself a UST!
     
    Champ, Nov 1, 2004
    #23
  4. Eddie

    Christofire Guest

    It probably is. However, the biting point being in the wrong place is
    my excuse for fluffing up just about every first pull-away I do on
    someone else's bike.

    After a few gear changes I'm usually on it, but that B12 takes longer
    which I attribute to either the heaviness prevents me using it gently
    or I'm a PFF.
     
    Christofire, Nov 1, 2004
    #24
  5. Eddie

    Eddie Guest

    I've got it on video. :p
     
    Eddie, Nov 1, 2004
    #25
  6. Eddie

    Champ Guest

    Of course you have. I mean, who hasn't?
     
    Champ, Nov 1, 2004
    #26
  7. Eddie

    darsy Guest

    Champ wrote:
    [tommy]
    I don't.
    In fact, I've not even sat and watched it all the way through.
     
    darsy, Nov 1, 2004
    #27
  8. Eddie

    Champ Guest

    Well, of course *you* wouldn't. But, given that I'm a fan of a) The
    Who, and b) Ken Russell, it's one of my favourites.
     
    Champ, Nov 1, 2004
    #28
  9. Eddie

    darsy Guest

    I don't mind The Who, and I like some Ken Russell movies ("The Devils"
    is, predictably, a favourite). I just have never gotten around to
    watching "Tommy" the whole way through in one sitting - I'm pretty
    sure I've seen every scene, IYSWIM.

    It couldn't be any near as good as "24 Hour Party People" in any case.
     
    darsy, Nov 1, 2004
    #29
  10. Eddie

    AndrewR Guest

    Nothing comes close to "Lair of the white worm" I'm afraid. It's a class
    act which has been unfairly maligned by some film snobs with no appreciation
    of the finer things in life.


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    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Nov 1, 2004
    #30
  11. Eddie

    Lozzo Guest

    AndrewR says...
    It's only good cos some burds get their tits out. Apart from that it's
    crap.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 1, 2004
    #31
  12. Eddie

    Pip Guest

    Right, bonny lad. I made a bit of a study of the Bandit12 when I was
    fortunate enough to have one. They have clutch 'issues', see.

    First off, a race can *will* liberate ~10bhp. My Scorpion made a big
    difference to mine all through the range and sounded a sight better
    than the standard sewing machine impersonator too.

    Freeing up that 10% will have an effect on the clutch, which, if not
    brandly new, slip a little on full chat as it gets a go on in second
    and third (first as well if you're really brave).
    If you use fully synth oil it will slip a lot. Everywhere.

    The best way to obviate the slippage is to use a 'heavy duty' clutch.
    Apparently the plates are a bit 'better'. I dunno what that means,
    tbh.
    The functional point is the diaphragm springs - they squeeze the
    plates together a bit harder - and take more pressure to release.

    The tried and tested way to uprate the clutch is to change *one*
    spring for a Barlow spring. Barlow springs are the 'heavy duty' type,
    and they are sold *only in pairs*. Fit two Barlow springs and you
    need the grip of a blacksmith to squeeze the lever - or at least, to
    repeatedly squeeze it, if you are negotiating town traffic, for
    example.

    Conventional wisdom dictates buying a pair (for ~20 quid) and fitting
    one and flogging the other to a Bandit-owning pal. Leave one of the
    existing springs in place, see.

    IIWY and assuming the clutch is fucked (standard B12 clutches are a
    bit marginal and wear swiftly in the urban environment) then I'd get a
    cheap set of plates and a pair of Barlow springs from a Suzuki dealer
    (they'll know what you want) or one of the Bandit specialists. Fit
    the plates and one of the springs - then try it. Fit both if you feel
    strong, but wax the gasket before refitting so it will come off for
    swappage in a couple of days.

    And I'd stick a cheap race can on it, and make sure the wires are
    disconnected - then get used to leaning forward sharply on every
    overtake. I swear I overtook more cars on A roads on one wheel than
    two, as the fucker picked up off catseyes, ripples in the road and
    white lines everywhere. Fucking brilliant, it was.
     
    Pip, Nov 1, 2004
    #32
  13. Eddie

    AndrewR Guest

    Not true at all; first off hardly any burds get their tits out (an when
    Amanda what-do-ya-mac-call-her does she's painted blue).

    It's got a plot which whips along fast enough, it has a couple of scary(ish)
    moments and it doesn't have a silly happy ending tacked on to it. All in
    all it really doesn't deserver the awful reputation that it enjoys and it is
    Mr Russell at his unrestrained best.


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    BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, COSOC#9, KotTFSTR#
    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Nov 1, 2004
    #33
  14. Eddie

    Pip Guest

    That'll be Barnet springs, not Barlow, you half-pissed, shagged out
    ugly ginger ****.
     
    Pip, Nov 1, 2004
    #34
  15. Eddie

    DR Guest

    Brings to mind some sort of extra-heavy-duty hair clip...
     
    DR, Nov 1, 2004
    #35
  16. Eddie

    Lozzo Guest

    Champ says...
    They have a diaphragm type clutch spring as standard, much the same as
    the R1. A common mod is to double up on the springs using one
    aftermarket heavy duty one and a knackered standard one. Apparently if
    two heavy duty ones are fitted it makes the clutch action worse than a
    Jotas.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 1, 2004
    #36
  17. Eddie

    Salad Dodger Guest

    <ponders impending clutch change on Wing>

    <reaches for handgun>

    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
    |_\_____/_| ..73063../..16589.../..3180./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
    '^'
     
    Salad Dodger, Nov 1, 2004
    #37
  18. Eddie

    Lozzo Guest

    Champ says...
    You can convert R1 clutches to take a multi-spring arrangement, but they
    cost a fortune.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 1, 2004
    #38
  19. Eddie

    Ginge Guest

    No, that would be Barnsley..
     
    Ginge, Nov 2, 2004
    #39
  20. Never looked inside a ShiteOldBoxer?

    <Thinks>

    No, I don't suppose you would have.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 2, 2004
    #40
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