Clutch cable Q

Just checked the Norge. No clutch cable! Some bastard's pinched it.

Theo

 

A cable or a Triumph?

Theo

 

If it was the bike I'd have bought half a dozen...

 

<Gasp> You fished around in molecular acid? Hope you didn't get any on
your tool!

 

If I have to explain, you won't understand.

This is a Hinckley Triumph. Not yer Father's Triumph, lad...

Must say after over nine and a half years I'd have expected at least one
drop to leak out. Must be using pitch...

 

OK youngins; gather round.
I saw a feller pushing a GPX750 along Gympie Rd at Lutwyche (not the
Melbourne Lutwyche) about a year ago and I stopped to offer help. I was
stunned to find that the only thing wrong was his clutch not disengaging and
that he had to push (about 2km before I came along) because he didn't know
how to ride clutchless.
Reading this thread reminded me of that and how this simple skill may need
to be explained to people who have yet to try it.
So here goes.

Riding clutchless is simple. Just don't stop and don't change gears.

But if you have to start, stop or change gears there's a few simple things
you can do to make it easier.
Step 1; grow long legs.
It's always gonna' be easier if you're built like Kneeslider or me but if
you can get part of both feet onto the ground at the same time you should be
OK. If you're built like Goaty and you're riding a 1500cc battle-cruiser
you're behind the 8-ball to begin with.

It also is much easier on a torquey bike. Especially one that's got a
low-geared first.

To start. Put the bike in neutral and start it. (Warm it up if needed)
Let the engine idle and then push off with your legs and kick into gear then
turn the throttle and motor away.
You won't need to push more than a metre or two and won't need to get over 1
or 2 mph; provided there's no throttle untill AFTER you're in gear the bike
wont kangaroo-hop, stall or do anything nasty.

Changing gears is easy. Change up at high revs (near redline) and change
down at low revs (near idle). For both ways just back the throttle off then
back on again and try to change at the transition when you're neither
accellerating nor decellerating.
It sounds awkward but it becomes second nature when you practice it a bit
(so much so that you'll find yourself sometim es choosing to change up
clutchless just 'cause it's less hassle when you're busy!)

Stopping is also simple.
As you're slowing just slip it into neutral IF IT"S EASY ON YOUR BIKE.
On many bikes it's very difficult to find neutral while rolling so it's much
simpler to just drag the back brake (leaving your hand free to control the
throttle and the kill-switch) until you're almost stopped and then just
flick the kill-switch.
Once the engine is dead; click into neutral and then get both feet on the
ground to paddle away again when the light goes green.

Remember; you're on a bike. Use the footpath, people's driveways,
traffic-islands etc. If you can't start up hill start down hill on the
footpath and then do a u-ey when there's a gap in traffic. If you can't
turn right turn left three times.
Also; use the back brake a lot. A bike can go very very slowly with the
back brake jammed on and a fair bit of throttle to stop it stalling.

Last but not least; practice this BEFORE you need it. When the light goes
green and the two semis you've just lanesplit between start taking off just
as the lever goes limp in your hand you'll have to spend a lot less on
laundry if you already know what to do!

 

What; the bike or you?

 

The shiny side. (Same as on Jap bikes)

 

By the way; practice changing gears clutchless first.
Start with up.
When you've got up-changes worked out then work on the down changes.
Then try a few clutchless starts and when you've got it mastered,
try a few brakes-and-throttle-at the same time and precise kill-switch
slow-speed stops.

[shrug] Did you have something better to do?
--
Clem

(snip)

 

Earliest I heard this was "conrod through the alternator" and attributed to
a Bathurst race in the early 70s.

Barry Sheen had a variation in the late 70s with:
"Why did you pit; Barry-san?"
"It's missing a bit"
"Missing a bit?"
"Yeah; ..a bit of crankcase!"

 

Where the **** is Lutwyche in Melbourne ??

Lived a lot of my years there and never heard of it

is it a new suburb they haven't told anyone about ??

 

Maybe it was Sydney then......

 

I guess it's too much to expect anyone with the moniker "George W" to
keep up.

JL

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:51:01 +1000

Hey it's easy if your feet touch the ground. I hope to hell the Norge
doesn't suffer the hydraulic clutch equivalent because no way would I
manage clutchless starts on that!

Zebee

 

..

Okay smart-arse, with all your superior knowledge, how would you like to let
everyone know where it is?

Otherwise, shut your mouth

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:08:48 GMT

when running foul of something that you don't understand, getting
aggro means no one will explain the joke.

They much prefer baiting you to the sound of "whooosh".

Zebee

 

I got no-where else to go GB....

Yes; beer's usually the reason... yes.

 

<snort> You and Bush really are cut from the same cloth aren't you ?
Okay Dubblya, it's really easy.

It's a joke Joyce, one which you've been on here long enough to have
seen wibbling and wobbling past you on several occasions. Don't moan
to me if you're too thick to catch on.

There are two chances of me changing my behaviour at your behest;
none, and buckleys.

JL

 

[shrug] I've never had any problems.

 

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:29:17 GMT, "Knobdoodle"

snip

I used a different method to start the fecking thing.

Assuming a warm or hot engine, stop the engine. Put it in first gear
and with little or no throttle press the start button and then roll on
more throttle as required.
Worked bewdy on the 1986 GSX1100EFG, on which I did over 200,000kms in
NZ. It had new Barnett clutch plates at 145,000kms but apart from that
I sold it in 1996 and the guy who now owns it hasn't touched the
engine. It is starting to blow a little smoke and uses 500ml of oil
every 2000kms, so that's not bad for a bike with 266,000kms on the
clock.

With the gear changing thing I regularly change gears, up or down,
without the clutch very smoothly and with out damage to gearboxes on
any of the bikes I have owned.

I started practising that by changing with my left hand fingers doing
the clutch movement without actually touching the clutch lever...then
eventually I do it now without moving my fingers.

hth

kind regards
Dave Milligan