[QUOTE] But only because there is no 500cc/motogp Prezactly The MotoGP are around 5s+ a lap faster and around 50HP more and knocking on 350km/h, Doohan never raced a bike with this much grunt/speed[/QUOTE] And in Rossi's own words "the 500s were much harder to ride than these" [QUOTE] The fact is they are so fast they are getting axed to 800cc....[/QUOTE] No that's Honda swinging their weight around in hope of regaining the advantage (they have about 4 times the engineering resources so they build a new engine much more easily) JL