Chimay and ukrm feckwits (longish)

So my 100bhp Pan European is willywaving?

 

The amazing ignorance of this statement suggests that you have very
little experience of bikes of over 60bhp.

Right:-

My Ducati has about 66bhp (claimed), and a top speed of maybe 130mph and
I can ride it *right* on the limit. Yes, I quite like small relatively
low-powered small light bikes for this sort of reason.

Now - my BMW has 100bhp, claimed (and bMW figures are usually quite
accurate), and the thought of riding that with a mere 60bhp turns my
blood cold.

Now, I'm not denying that 60bhp puts a smile on your face. It's just
that more horsepower puts a bigger one. And *lots* of horsepower makes
your face split in half.

In brief - you're a bigoted ignorant fuckwit.

 

What a stunningly blinkered point of view. How good do you imagine a
Goldwing loaded with two people & a fortnight's worth of clothes would
be with 60bhp? How much harder would it be to overtake a truck on a
twisty B-road on a 220Kg Tiger if it only had 60bhp (especially when
2-up)? It's not all about top speed you know - in fact it mostly isn't
about top speed.

--
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
Off-Road Classifieds

'02 MV Senna '03 Tigtona 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250

 

Quite the opposite as it goes, I like to know when they are good.

What does irk though is that you lot never praise the really good ones.
I didn't work very hard on that one and bunged it out largely unfinished
because I couldn't be arsed to redo the prose and make it scan and flow
and stuff to make it work just right on the tongue and I wasn't really
that pleased with it. What happens? You lot love it. Conversely I
spend a whole evening putting my heart and soul into one and you lot
just ignore it. There is no justice in the world really there isn't.

 

I too was faced with this dilemma a few years back. I am happy to say
that choosing to stay was the right thing to do. Inflicting suffering on
lot is a pleasure unequalled by any other human activity, expect perhaps
sex, drugs, riding a motorcycle and rock and roll.

 

You are coming tantalisingly close to the point.
In both of the above cases you are probably actually using less than
60 bhp because the manufacturers mythical 100bhp can only be produced
at peak RPM. What you need is GRUNT, otherwise known as plenty of
midrange torque. Unfortunately this bit of engineering reality does
not fit well with the marketing idea of "what sells bikes" so your
engines have been designed to produce big headline numbers rather
than practical useable power.

 

Agree strongly.

I don't have 100bhp to use but in a similar context there are not many
rides I take where I don't use the 40 something bhp that is left after
the years and my improvements have taken their toll. If I had the 100+
horses available then I am confident I would agree totally with you.

 

Let's look at a bit more context that really means something as
opposed to more saloon bar bollocks. I own a 2006 Z1000, a 1976
Morini and a 1969 Triumph 500, so I'm neither a "non-classic guy" or a
"classic guy".

Nonsense.

 

Indeed. My Morini 350 is a weedy thing in comparison with any modern
bike but still has a massive grin factor. Pa

It doesn't. There are still plenty of roads where a 125bhp Z1000 can
put a decent percentage of it's power down, if you know where to
look. I've just come back from some, none more than 30 miles as the
crow flies from the centre of London.

 

Strange then that Triumph market their Rocket 3 in the following terms
"You already know the numbers: a 2294cc triple engine; torque, 147lb-
ft at 2,500 rpm".

 

Unless you've got a stupidly large engine in a poor state of tune, you
don't get grunt without horses. One is a function of the other.

 

He's not doing at all well, is he?

 

Wrong.

 

We all expect those.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

 

Bollocks. Most of the litre-plus sport bikes produce great thundering
gobs of mid-range torque. These days, you don't need a big lazy twin for
that - thank ****.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

 

I have followed SD when he has been making progress through traffic and
he wouldn't be slowing down to those speeds for anything.

 

I *like* big lazy twins. Fours are fine as machines to ride, but as
machines to own, IYSWIM, it has to be a twin. Thay sound nicer apart
from anything else. Fours should be ridden and not heard IMO.

 

TBH, many years ago I couldn't see the point of sports bikes on the
road, until I rode one. Ride one - and mean it - and you'll understand
too.

This cheap 'sexual inadequacy' thing is playground stuff.

 

I think that the main point you might not have considered is ...

jealousy

 

The Older Gentleman

Yes that, and building the Ariel 3, Ariel Pixie BSA Dandy and BSA Beagle
didn't help ;-(


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