Chimay and ukrm feckwits (longish)

Oh, aye. I was really comparing the jap stuff with the mass market,
i.e. mostly british, stuff that was available.

Sure. My memories of Z900s et al failing abysmally to out-perform the
two bikes you mention are equally clear.

I was there too, remember? Again, my memories are more of Kwaks, 'cos
when I was first running with a biking crowd (1977 or so) these were
what most people had, except for the rich guys with the Italian
'exotica' and the oldsters (i.e. 25+) who were still sticking with
their brit-iron.

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ISTR that in the late 60s, the engines had shorter lifetimes and prone
to breaking down, the chroming flaked off

The phrase didn't spring out of nowhere

 

Hmmm...having owned both an 1100 Katana and a Le Mans II I think I'd back
the Katana under most conditions, given a suitably brave and committed
rider. The Le Mans handles much better, but it just doesn't make much power,
and it is a lot heavier than it has any right to be for its size. I really,
really regret selling the Kat. I'm not in any real hurry to get rid of the
Le Mans either, but I need the garage space.

 

What, compared to the brit iron common at the time? You're having a
larf.

Who gives a shit?

No, it sprang out of the mouths of those unwilling to accept the
inevitable.

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Nah UK engines plodded along at reasonable revs and lasted for
ever (STS), as opposed to the high revving, better performing Jap ones

Those who coined the phrase "Jap crap" obviously

 

I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.
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I remember being scared witless missing a gear (must have been
top!) at 100 mph on the curve past Garran Hall[0] on the ANU campus on the
(1971) T500R[1]. Went into such a wobble and put me on the wrong side of the
road... Eye-witnesses told me I ran a car off the road, but I never
noticed!

[0] Google Earth sez 35°16'37.23"S 149°06'54.23"E, going SSW.
[1] http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1971/1971_T500_450.jpg
'cept mine was purkle and white.

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I wouldn't use the term japcrap as a 'general' description for
Japanese bikes since about 1980.

Obviously a lot of bikes that are best described as being crap have
come out of Japan since then but it's not really fair to judge
everything by the standard of shit that Honda churn out.

 

You're not alone.

 

They are an aquired taste, but certainly one of the most reliable bikes
ever built. The eciloP bought them by the hundred and sold them on when
they got to 100,000 miles. Overengineered and expensive when new, but
this shows now in the numbers still running 50 years later.

The original Honda Dream was the bike that slaughtered the Britbike
industry. They were very cheap to buy and had lots of shiny stuff like
electric starters but horribly unreliable, rusted while you watched,
and had widdowmaking handling. They outsold the Britbikes purely
because they were CHEAP and Shiny. I doubt if more than a handfull
survive.

OK, the modern ones are not bad, but 50 years means that everything
has moved on. They look very pretty but they still do not have the
quality of a Beemer or a Hawg.

 

Figures, overpowered bikes are a sure sign of sexual inadequacy.

 

*boggle*

 

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They outsold British bikes because they were better than them in every
way.

This last paragraph has just condemned you to being labeled an idiot
whatever else you choose to post on the subject of motorbikes.

 

Dunno what Honda Dream you're on about, but the one sold in the UK in
the 1970s was a pile of shite, with looks to match, and was only
around for a couple of years befrore being replaced by the equally
appaling Superdream.

You may, of course, be referring to the Cx7n models of the late
50s/early 60s, but they didn't slaughter anything and were very low
sales items compared with the brit stuff of the time.

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Heh. I missed that, as it happens. Another one for the virtual 'ignore
the twat' file.

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That's better.

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You want to eat SD'd testicles?

 

Maybe he just wants to watch, and provide some company.

 

You obviously never had one after the warranty ran out.
They were good for 20,000 miles at best before things started going
rather wormy.

 

See this bit you snipped?

But they didn't "slaughter the britbike industry" either.
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