Chicken strip problem

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by serf, Aug 7, 2005.

  1. serf

    Christofire Guest

    Ok, beer-theory alert:
    The tyre deforms differently under different loading.
    I'm pretty sure I don't brake all that hard into corners, and if I'm
    braking then I usually do it upright.
    I do accelerate through and out of corners.
    I know from pictures of the bike in a corner that the rear tyre deforms
    much more than the front. The rear tyre appears to be making contact
    to the edge, whereas the front is nowhere near the edge. In fact, the
    rear almost looks like it's down on pressure, but it's got 33+psi in it.

    Now, is that due to the profile, the loading on the tyres, the way the
    tyre deforms, the way the tyre is *designed* to deform or other?

    If it's 1 or 4 then yes, it's the way it's meant to be. If it's 3 then
    I'd expect that to be the riding style (heavy acceleration out of
    corners / heavy braking into corners / whatever). 2 tyre pressures
    wrong perhaps, or as for 5 - WFDD.
     
    Christofire, Aug 9, 2005
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  2. serf

    Muck Guest

    this is true... although you want to be investing in an impact driver
    too.
     
    Muck, Aug 9, 2005
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  3. serf

    Muck Guest

    Titainium bolts do have miles better corrosion restance than normal
    steel bolts, but you need washers and some funny special grease to use
    them.
     
    Muck, Aug 9, 2005
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  4. serf

    Lozzo Guest

    Veggie Dave says...
    My daughter had one of those as her first road bike when she was 16.
    Poor thing used to get ridden flat out from Leicester to Warwick and
    back again 3 times a week. I fitted a 70cc big bore kit and Fresco pipe
    to it, after that lot it did about 50mph and stayed 100% reliable.
    Lovely little bike, she's given it to her brother now he's turned 16.
     
    Lozzo, Aug 9, 2005
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  5. serf

    Lozzo Guest

    someone here says...
    The right side of my front tyre has no chicken strip left, the left
    side has just over quarter of an inch. My rear tyre has no chicken
    strip either side and the right is a bit more chewed up than the left.
    It would be the same even without the help of Donington's abrasive
    tarmac because I don't do left handers very well.
     
    Lozzo, Aug 9, 2005
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  6. serf

    someone here Guest

    The technical guy was doing a presentation to our local BMF meeting, at the
    end he asked
    for questions.
    "I can take my rear tyre almost to the edge of tread. Get rid of all those
    silly rubber bits
    sticking out. But I can't even get close with the front wheel. How can I get
    rid of the
    rubber tassles on the front?"

    The reply involved.... "If you get too close to the edge of a rear tyre, you
    stand the chance of losing
    traction. This will result in a low side. The bike will judder/shake and
    generally let a rider know
    in time to do 'something' about it. Losing traction in the front wheel is
    potentially more dangerous,
    highside/inability to steer so it is designed that the chicken strip will be
    bigger."

    Certain caveats were that tyre must be standard OEM sizing.
    Fitting the wrong size tyre so that you could remove the last mm of strip
    would be considered
    negligent of any tyre fitter. The probability of wrecking the bike would be
    very high.

    He had spent four years on the GP circuit and claimed that ALL the racers
    had a chicken strip on the front
    larger than the one on the rear, regardless of their personal approach to
    cornering ie sliding it in sideways.
    or whatever.

    Dave
     
    someone here, Aug 9, 2005
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  7. serf

    Christofire Guest

    So I'm like a racer? Cool. Lets go with your explanation.

    <seriously>

    Sounds reasonable enough. Your bit, that is.
     
    Christofire, Aug 9, 2005
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  8. serf

    Christofire Guest

    Nah - leave him to the comedy - porl's the chap for animation.
     
    Christofire, Aug 9, 2005
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  9. serf

    someone here Guest

    Eye thank yew,

    Dave
     
    someone here, Aug 9, 2005
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