Cheeky bugger

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG@Toil, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. TOG@Toil

    des Guest

    des, Sep 13, 2008
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  2. TOG@Toil

    Higgins Guest

    Fraud? TOG bid on the item and, implicit in that bid, agreed to pay £50
    for P&P. After agreeing to pay £50 for p&p, TOG then told the bloke that
    he wanted to collect it instead and the bloke agreed, but at a cost of
    £50. The seller might be a chancing bastard but he was perfectly within
    his rights to set the fee for collection at whatever he wished as
    collection was never offered as part of the original deal.

    Think of it as the EDS model, the original deal is cheap but, by ****,
    you get screwed on the contract changes.


    Anyway, I was more making the point that this is one of the arguments
    that comes up fairly regularly on upce and there are always two camps
    and they are never reconciled.

    Ergo, it's a fairly pointless discussion.
     
    Higgins, Sep 14, 2008
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  3. Niel J Humphreys, Sep 14, 2008
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  4. Once again: No, he wasn't. It's against Ebay's rules to charge excessive
    p&p. And £50 for something that costs a tenner to post is what I call
    excessive.

    Do you need the link again?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 14, 2008
    #64
  5. Ballcocks....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 14, 2008
    #65
  6. Presume away.
    What bit of: "I have a Ducati" failed to register with you?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 14, 2008
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  7. Quite possible not to read it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 14, 2008
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  8. TOG@Toil

    DanB Guest


    You'd have no problem with paying "Posting and Packing" charges for an item
    the seller was happy for you collect (and as such, cost them nothing)? Yes,
    the posting fees were shown and there was no option for collection - but the
    seller then offered collection, and you still think it's ok for them to
    charge you for a 'Posting and Packing' service that they will never actually
    do?

    I suspect you, as anyone would, would be more than a little irritated.

    Also, it was mentioned about 4 times throughout the thread (including in the
    very first post) that these would be useful spares for TOGs own bike - who
    ever mentioned resale? And no intention of paying for them? The silencers
    sold, for £30 - there was then to be a £50 service charge for posting and
    packing, the seller tried to charge that service charge, despite agreeing
    not to carry out that service.
     
    DanB, Sep 14, 2008
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  9. TOG@Toil

    ShielaS Guest

    Just wondering - how do you ensure that buyers don't pay by Paypal, as they
    are entitled to do, on collected items.
    You're not allowed to state in a lisitng that its Cash only on collect
    items, so how do you personally get round this?

    Shiela
     
    ShielaS, Sep 14, 2008
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  10. Yes you are.
    http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html

    Permitted
    Sellers may offer to accept:
    - Cash for in-person transactions
     
    Niel J Humphreys, Sep 14, 2008
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  11. Unfortunately the aptly-named Spacker tends to run off on these flights
    of fantasy....
    Ding
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 14, 2008
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  12. TOG@Toil

    YTC#1 Guest

    I give up.

    If it is not British Basketball League then what is it ?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBL_(disambiguation)
     
    YTC#1, Sep 14, 2008
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  13. TOG@Toil

    Fran Guest

    Blocked Bidders List.
     
    Fran, Sep 14, 2008
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  14. TOG@Toil

    ShielaS Guest

    You can "offer" to accept cash, but what if they decide to pay by Paypal
    after winning a collect only item, which they are entitled to do?

    Or indeed if they insist on paying by Paypal and refuse to pay cash on
    collection?

    Shiela
     
    ShielaS, Sep 14, 2008
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  15. If they pay by Paypal I refund and point them to my auction terms which they
    should have read and not bid if they didn't agree. Fortunately I have yet to
    come across an arsehole who would behave like this and I imagine they are
    far and very few between. If I did come across one I will refund and file an
    unpaid item report.

    It does not specifically say anywhere that you can not only stipulate cash
    for collections, only that you must offer Paypal in your listings - which i
    do. I have spoken to my Ebay account manager about this and he agreed that
    it is fine for me to only offer cash as a payment option if people want to
    collect in person. Also as per my request he confirmed this in an email -
    though whether that will be accepted by Ebay in the event of any problems I
    do not wish to test obviously
     
    Niel J Humphreys, Sep 14, 2008
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    nick Guest

    But Niel thinks it's a jolly jape to report sellers for that sort of thing?
     
    nick, Sep 14, 2008
    #76

  17. Nope, I don't have time or inclination to go around shopping competitors and
    other sellers for fun. I have enough on my plate running my own business to
    be an Ebay netkop.
     
    Niel J Humphreys, Sep 14, 2008
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  18. TOG@Toil

    ShielaS Guest


    I've tried to clarify this with Ebay myself by asking them specifically if
    a listing would be pulled if it stated "Cash only on collected items", but
    they finally wore me down by sending reply after reply which completely
    ignored the actual question, so I gave up!

    Shiela
     
    ShielaS, Sep 14, 2008
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  19. Aye that's why it's so helpful to have an account manager when you're a gold
    powerseller. IIRC the absolutely no cash rule was not implemented on the UK
    Ebay site (yet) like it has been on the US Site. Once or if it is I will
    simply stop offering a collection service & everyone will have to pay for
    and have items shipped.

    Collections are a pain in the arse anyway for me as I do not have shop
    premises so have to sort out a time to meet people at my stores. So many
    people don't seem to comprehend what an 'appointment' is.
     
    Niel J Humphreys, Sep 14, 2008
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  20. Yes, I would. A price is a price. And, as you still seem to be dodging
    the issue, it's against Ebay's rules to load the p&p.

    Suppose he'd stipulated £500 in his t&cs? You're not seriously
    suggesting I should have paid that?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 14, 2008
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