Cheeky bugger

Erm, that should have been a question:

Have you got the link?

 

Have you ever worked for the sun?

 

That's more or less it. He was being dishonest.

When I sell motorcycle components, figuring out p&p is very much a
finger-in-the wind sort of thing. I've got a pretty good idea of what
stuff costs to send now, and heavy stuff goes via Parcel2Go, and I tend
to err on the side of caution (for me), so most items are charged for
slightly more than the simple postage cost.

As others have said, there's the cost of carting the stuff to the PO to
take into account.

OTOH, I've frequently *under* estimated postage costs, and had to fork
out an extra quid or two or three. I suppose it all balances out in the
end.

A couple of years ago, I had a brand new exhaust system for a 1970s
Kawasaki (ie: a component sought-after by restorers and utterly
unobtainable from Kawasaki). The winning bidder was in France. It so
happened I was going to spend a shopping weeknd in France, a couple of
days after I received payment. So I took it with me, all wrapped, and
posted it from a French PO (way, way cheaper than sending from the UK)
and Paypal'd him a nice fat refund.

Got some decent FB for that ;-)

So why not wrap and weigh everything before sale, and get an accurate
postage cost figure? Because very often, when I'm listing a ouple of
dozen components at the same time, a bidder will win two or more items,
and then I chuck them in the same pack and consolidate (ie: reduce) p&p
charges.

But charging £50 for posting an item whose postage cost is about a fifth
of that is taking the piss. Having incorrect contact details on Ebay is
also taking the piss. And saying "By all means come and collect but I'll
still change you p&p" is also taking the piss.

 

All of those things may be valid - but the question still remains: why did
you bid, given that you knew the stated postage?

 

As I've said several times before, I didn't check[1]. I just saw the
price, saw it was very local, and clicked BIN.

As I've also said several times, this was my error.[1]

As I've also said several times, such an extortionate sum contravenes
Ebay's p&p rules.[1]

And as I've also said, he subsequently said I was welcome to collect -
but he'd still demand £50 p&p.[1] That was definitely where I saw red.


[1] You haven't been following this thread, really, have you?[2]
[2] Unless it was on the postings where the f/u to upce was snipped, and
it only went to ukrm.

 

I didn't think the neg was fair but the seller could have easily avoided it
by adjusting his attitude.

I would have thought it unfair if I'd have been negged over my 99p + £22
post items simply because it was obvious to all but the terminally stupid
what was happening. I probably got off lightly come to think about it.

John

 

Ah, maybe. I'd been following it on upce only. I'm just surprised at you.
<grin> Too much claret before reading?

 

No-one did. Although some refused to pay the high P&P. In which case, I just
closed by mutual agreement.

That was a point I oftem made. Myself and all the other high P&P sellers
were just trying to offer the best *combined* price. Some didn't see it that
way but obviously agreed to some extent with what I told them. Otherwise I'd
have had the crap negged out of me.

He's said the high postage only came to his attention after the 'Buy it
Now'. If that was me then I'd have thought "shit" and either paid or, more
likely, I'd have attempted to negotiate some discount. I wouldn't have
negged even if the seller wouldn't budge from the final combined price.

John

 

I purchased an item this afternoon, I don't remember seeing the P&P on the
confirm purchase page. I'm not saying you're wrong but it wasn't that
obvious if it was there !

John

 

Ebay item 130254435697

A pair of silencers for my Ducati, at a bargain priceof £30. Useful as
spares, just to tuck away (new, they're something like £160 a side).
And the seller is just down the road from me, so no need to post. Just
as well, as he's demanding an eye-watering £50 to post (or about four
times the actual cost).

He's just told me the price is £80 whether I collect or not. What to
do? Neg instantly and move on? Report him to Ebay?

Neg the fucker, then nip round and deck him for good measure.

That should teach the little scote a thing or two.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

I imagine that when (if) they do, the men in charge won't give a flying
****. They'll have made more money in a week than most peole will in their
lives and I'm sure a few pissed off customers aren't going to appear on
their worry radar.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

Full of cunts, run by cunts. I hope I never have to work there again.

 

{ f-u to uk.rec.motorcycles }

You don't (I assume) know the person posting as 'TOG', but evasion of
personal responsibility is his trademark.

There is one (sort of) famous example which illustrates this. TOG was
riding his motorcycle through France one day a few years back, and
noticed that he was running low on fuel. It was a Sunday. He stopped
at an unmanned petrol station, and was shocked to note that the pump
only accepted French cards, i.e. those with the little 'smart chip' on
them.

Now, most people in such a situation would have slapped their own
forehead, realised that they had erred in a) not filling up earlier or
b) not checking beforehand that one's chosen method of payment was
accepted in the foreign country to which one was travelling, and
thought, '**** me, I was a bit of a daft bastard' (as for example, I
said in 2004 when I left my driving licence here in France, and didn't
even think to 'blame' the car hire companies in Dallas, when they
refused to accept a photocopy of said document, thus condemning me to
two weeks without a hire car).

Not TOG. No, according to him, it was the fault of the French for not
accepting his card.

Well, I say 'the French', but of course that's not what TOG calls us. In
TOG's Little Engländer world, the French are 'Frogs', the Italians are
'Dagos', the Spaniards are 'Wops', the Germans are 'Krauts' or
'Boxheads', the Dutch are 'Cloggies', the Americans are 'Yanks', the
Welsh are 'Taffies', the Scots are 'Jocks', the Irish are 'Paddies', the
Russians are 'Ruskies', the Japanese are 'Nips', the Canadians are
'Canucks', the Jews are 'Kikes' (or sometimes 'Yids'), the Chinese are
'Chinkies' ... and so on.

I haven't personally read him call a black person 'wog,' 'nig-nog' or
'darkie', but given his record for sheer bigotry (of which the above is
alas, but a taster), I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he has
done so.

So whatever you do, don't expect him to 'fess' up and say, 'fuckin'
'ell, I was a bit of a prick, there...'

D.

 

We'll still inherit the world.

D.

 

You're revealing a murky past.

 

Not really past enough to suit me.

 

I disagree, The term "postage and packaging" implies the items will be
"packaged" and then posted.

*not* delivery
*not* collection

It would amount to fraud to charge for something not supplied.

 

Now that sounds to be be the *best* suggestion so far... except he stated
UK.

 

I like cunts

 

I like pussy.