Checking warranty legislation

No you don't. It's an unenforceable unilateral contract.Lack of
consideration and lack of intention to contract.

Yeebok has no legal legs to stand on requesting something in exchange
for giving up a right he doesn't possess - the right is the opposite way
- Coles etc have no right to search you or your possessions. They can't
obtain that right without your permission and their silly little sign
doesn't give it to them.

They can ask you not to leave while the police arrive to perform a
search but they have no right to detain you pending their arrival.

If you choose to refuse to open your bag and walk off the only thing
they can do is call the cops who can arrest you on suspicion of
shoplifting and they of course *do* have the right to search you (and
detain you for questioning).


JL
This is true for NSW, other states may have other laws, this isn't legal
advice and should not be relied on to get you off the hook - your
circumstances may differ from the generic example above

 

X-Archive=no in the headers

 

So why would GP put this in the header knowing no one could read the post

 

Shrug NFI - but he's not the only one doing it

And btw sorry that should be
X-No-Archive = yes

in the headers

GB - why are you no archiving your posts ?

JL

 

They get sneaky sometimes... they refuse to take your money until you
allow the bag search. Then you can't leave because you would be leaving
with unpaid for goods.

The response to that of course is to empty their stuff out on the
counter and walk out...


G-S

 

Because your newsreader is playing up, and misinterpreting
the "X-No-Archive: yes" header that my newsreader is setting
when I post.

He wouldn't, and neither would I. If your newsreader is claiming
that my posts are expired before you've even read them, then your
newsreader is broken.

Lots of people do it. Google actually *suggest* that you do it,
in certain circumstances. (Then they turn around and get downright
rude about it in the way they represent the post in groups.google.com,
wankers).

X-No-Archive: yes

I am archiving my posts. The X-No-Archive: header says that I
don't want others to archive my posts. Call it an exercise in
minimising, insofar as is reasonably possible, the number of
things that might come back to bite in future lives.

FFR, see: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-No-Archive> and
<http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=46487>


GB

 

Is this just a hypothetical sometimes or what? When does this ever
happen? OK I rarely walk into shops with a bag, but I can't imagine
that there are checkout chicks out there who are budding lawyers trying
to trap innocent people with bags.

I would have thought their refusal to accept payment would put a tick in
the consideration box and everyone would go on their way. Free stuff is
good.

Nev..
'07 XB12X
'08 DL1000K8

 

;-) I'd be surprised if there weren't any number of "bush lawyers"
manning check-outs

Naah unfortunately there's case law on that.

Basically the price on the shelf is an "invitation to treat" and when
you walk up to the checkout you're offering to buy it, (not accepting
their offer as most people assume). Hence they have every right to
refuse to accept your offer - same as I can offer you $3.50 and a kick
in the nuts (1) for your new Strom, but you don't have to accept it.

JL
1 Assuming I can reach them - might have to be a kick in the knees

 

I've never had it happen to me - usually they back down when I tell
them to sod off but yes that is the only legal valid response to that
scenario.

JL

 

In my (limited) experience it required a snippy supervisor and a night
security guard who thinks they can exceed their authority by just
ordering someone to do something.

Nope (as JL already pointed out).

But you do have the option to leave the stuff at the counter as I
already mentioned.


G-S

 

It happened to me once, it was about 2am in the western suburbs of
Melbourne and I was dressed in grotty, wet rained upon leather riding gear.

I think they thought I was some sort of 'bikie criminal... eeek'.

I OTOH thought they were wasting my time when I was already pissed off
and wet and cold (not a condition in which I suffer idiots gladly).


G-S

 

Oh shut up big!


GB

 

I don't think I've *ever* been in a situation where something
I wanted to purchase from a supermarket (for example) was
something I couldn't live without. Leaving the stuff and walking
away is a perfectly viable approach.


GB

 

Why not just show them your bag and save yourself the from the anxiety,
stress, heartache or whatever reaction it is that you have?

Nev..
'07 XB12X
'08 DL1000K8

 

I tend to agree... I like to choose my battles, and I can think of others I
would rather fight. I happily show my bag and they don't really even look in
it - a cursory glance and that's it... I suspect the very action of opening
your bag and slowing down as you walk past them puts them in a happy and
secure frame of mind...

betty
did I just sort of agree with Nev? <snigger>

 

I have been trying to show them my bags for years, I was locked up for it
the last time.

Boxer

 

That's a slippery slope you've started down betty!


GB

 

You're a bad man Boxer.


I nearly choked the day I was wandering in a shopping centre with a
mate and, whilst well out of earshot I caught sight of him standing
before a 'security' guard at the front of a store, holding his
backpack by its handle up high in the air, twirling it around a
foot from the 'guard''s face. The 'guard' had a rather... uhm...
confuzzled look on his face. He knew full well what was going on,
but technically my friend had complied... :-D


GB

 

Boxer wrote:

Hehe .. very droll, Boxer

 

I wasn't anxious, stressed or suffering from heartache (where'd that
last one come from?) I was tired, wet and in a hurry.

The security guard's attempt to make himself look like a 'big man taking
on the biker in front of the checkout chick (and maybe get some brownie
points with the snippy supervisor)' was simply making me pissed off.

He created the situation expecting *shrug*.



G-S