Chattering masses

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Andy Bonwick, Mar 16, 2011.

  1. Andy Bonwick

    Thomas Guest

    It's a bit difficult to say that when the problems aren't resolved
    yet.
     
    Thomas, Mar 17, 2011
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  2. Andy Bonwick

    CT Guest

    I suppose we could continue to have thousands of people killed every
    year[1] while digging coal out of the ground.

    [1] A couple of thousand a year in China alone, IIRC.
     
    CT, Mar 17, 2011
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  3. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    I know that. You know that. It matters not at all. That's only miners not
    minors.
     
    Hog, Mar 17, 2011
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  4. Andy Bonwick

    Thomas Guest

    Who knows? There are people working in the plant. My next door
    neighbor was in the military in the Ukraine when Chernobyl happened.
    He was part of the clean-up crew. He's still alive, but he's had
    serious health problems ever since. Not a nice thing.
     
    Thomas, Mar 17, 2011
    #64
  5. I agree with this. I really don't see why, in times of emergency that
    wrinklies who volunteer shouldn't be top of the selection list.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 17, 2011
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  6. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    <perk>
    Really? As in the crews who had to go in and shovel graphite and fuel back
    into a big 'ole before they covered the mess up.
     
    Hog, Mar 17, 2011
    #66
  7. Andy Bonwick

    Thomas Guest

    I'm not certain what exactly he did. He doesn't like to talk about it
    much, but it in the plant itself.
     
    Thomas, Mar 17, 2011
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  8. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    Chernoble is a case in point.
    One side says 50. The other 1000000
     
    Hog, Mar 17, 2011
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  9. Andy Bonwick

    Salad Dodger Guest

    We've only got six "life" funds, but the biggest has around £60bn of
    equities in it. Add in additional exotic vehicles, and unitised funds,
    REITs, derivatives, etc, and it gets to be a bit of a habdful.

    Big fund had lightly in excess of fourteen thousand disposals in 2010.
    Heh. We don't "do" tapering,either, still stick to old 82 and 85
    pools, with good old fashioned indexation. Budget day '65 stuff is
    lumped in with the 82 holdings.
    When we acquired a well-known porridgeland mutual in 1997, all their
    CGT stuff was still kept manually, so we were forced to a: check it up
    to take on date, and then b: manually load the balances on to our
    system. Luckily, overtime was still paid in those far-off days.
     
    Salad Dodger, Mar 17, 2011
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  10. Andy Bonwick

    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    I've seen it mentioned once, but in an explanation of why it couldn't
    happen due to the containment vessel design. Don't think it was this article
    though, naturally enough in the Torygraph:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...reactor-before-radioactive-leak-or-worse.html

    --
    Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Ivan D. Reid, Mar 17, 2011
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  11. Andy Bonwick

    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    I'd volunteer for a one-way mission to Mars, and I'm not even as
    wrinkly as gold-cow.

    Chap at PSI volunteered to do a very hot welding job, after a
    little accident with beam-steering[1]. After several months' training
    he stuck himself in a vacuum chamber, did a 30-second welding job on the
    hole in the wall, and retired for life on a good pension due to dose taken.

    [1] When they fired up the accelerator for the first time after annual
    maintenance, one of the bending magnets had been wired up to the wrong
    polarity. Unfortunately the radiation monitors had been left at the
    levels set for the end of the previous year, so they didn't trip with beam
    current some 40 times less. But 600 MeV x 60 uA is still 36 kW in a
    millimetre-sized beam on an aluminium wall, so it only took a few seconds
    to burn a hole through the chamber. Just long enough to say, "Wo zum Fick
    hat der Strahl weg?"

    --
    Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Ivan D. Reid, Mar 17, 2011
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  12. Andy Bonwick

    Thomas Guest

    True, however there are medical maps for the areas around the open pit
    mines in Appalachia that show much heightened incidence of certain
    diseases over long periods of time. You may not be able to prove any
    one case, but any trend should become obvious.
     
    Thomas, Mar 17, 2011
    #72
  13. Nope. All those guys died. They were given protection suits that they
    were told would shield them. They might as well have given them tissue
    paper.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Mar 18, 2011
    #73
  14. Hopefully not the same ones who said last Friday that the Japanese
    reactors were perfectly safe. Until, of course, the hydrogen explosions.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Mar 18, 2011
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  15. Andy Bonwick

    Eiron Guest

    Of course not. They will be the same engineers who design Renault electrics.
     
    Eiron, Mar 18, 2011
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  16. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    Point of order.
    Up to a very significant point of external Beta/Gamma radiation some people
    will survive if you ensure they don't ingest any radioactive toxins. So it
    wasn't entirely bogus.
    Obviously past a certain point the central nervous system and blood
    chemistry will be fucked by ionising radiation but you don't know where that
    is until you get there IYSWIM
     
    Hog, Mar 18, 2011
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  17. Andy Bonwick

    Ian Field Guest


    Over the years Renault has had a bit of a chequered history.

    Ambulances that spontaneously burst into flames, cars with wheels that shear
    off and more recently dodgy bonnet catches that fly open and smash the
    windscreen.............. just the few I can remember.
     
    Ian Field, Mar 18, 2011
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  18. Andy Bonwick

    Beav Guest

    And all of them in Japan?
     
    Beav, Mar 18, 2011
    #78
  19. Andy Bonwick

    Eiron Guest

    I had one Renault for three years:
    Automatic handbrakes that don't release reliably when you want to drive off.
    Drive-by-wire throttles that cut the engine just when you need it most.
    ECUs that randomly turn on the foglights while the car is parked.
    Then there's the design feature that you can't apply the handbrake
    or turn off the engine above ~6mph. Not that you would notice if the
    throttle jammed open with such a gutless engine.
     
    Eiron, Mar 18, 2011
    #79
  20. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    Bwahaha

    Even funnier that iodine tablets etc are selling out..... in the USA.
     
    Hog, Mar 18, 2011
    #80
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