Changes in the 2009 Australian road rules regarding navigation equipment.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by John Tserkezis, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. I've just properly read Part 18, section 299 of the 2009 Australian
    Road Rules, and the bit about visual displays not allowable.

    There is an exception in place for "driver's aids", of which navigation
    is one example.

    The 2008 road rules (of which NSW currently follows) says (in part):

    (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if:
    (b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver’s aid, or


    Fine, now the 2009 ARR says (again in part):

    (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if:
    (b) the vehicle is not a motor bike and the visual display
    unit is, or is part of, a driver’s aid and either –


    It's the motor bike bike I'm interested in. This implies that the 2009
    exception does NOT apply if the vehicle is a motor bike. That is, no
    motor bikes are allowed SatNav devices at all, if (or when) NSW starts
    following the 2009 revision.



    Again, I know this does NOT CURRENTLY apply, I'm just concerned they
    may sneak this one in if (or when) they do apply it.
     
    John Tserkezis, Feb 19, 2010
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    Marty H Guest


    I could be wrong but if the rules are the same as the Vicroads, which
    I believe they are now cos every state is suppose to be standardised

    the Exemption is about

    The rule relating to "securing" visual display units does not apply to
    motorcycles.

    The visual display unit just doesn't have to be an integrated part of
    the vehicle design, or secured in a commercially designed holder,
    which is fixed to the vehicle as it does for cars

    i.e a gps can sit in the clear part of your tank bag on a motorcycle,
    but on a car it cant sit in your centre console


    in other words...its a little win for us

    mh
     
    Marty H, Feb 19, 2010
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    Marty H Guest

    also, it might be wise to post a link to the whole rule

    here is the pricktoads one
    http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/r...D1753B254980/0/FACTSHEET_MobilePhonesVDUs.pdf
     
    Marty H, Feb 19, 2010
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    Andrew Guest


    Correct. Satnav for bikes is excluded from the restriction. However, the
    rest of the regulation is objectionable. My mobile phone provides a (not
    very good) GPS function and comes with a doover to suck-stick it to the
    windscreen, but I don't think that makes it a driver's aid.
     
    Andrew, Feb 19, 2010
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  5. Ah, that's a lot clearer now. The wording could have been taken in a
    couple of different ways.

    The documents I used where:

    Australian Road rules 2009:
    <http://www.ntc.gov.au/filemedia/Reports/ARR_February_2009_final.pdf>

    Australian Road rules 2008:
    <http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2008104/>

    Part 18, Section 299 "Television receivers and visual display units in
    motor vehicles" is the part of interest.


    Both are very similar, with the 2009 revision stating the Motor bike
    exception, the driver's aid must either be a factory install or fastened
    to the vehicle with a commercially available holder designed for the
    purpose, and a more clear exception to allow for displays in Police and
    emergency vehicles.
    The vicroads addition you linked to, pretty much paraphrases that.



    My confusion stems from the boolean logic wording they used.
    299(2)(b) says, if NOT a motorbike AND display is an aid, then the
    exception applies.
    Since we're talking about bikes, 299(2)(b) cannot apply, so there is no
    exception for that condition (bikes).
     
    John Tserkezis, Feb 19, 2010
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