CG125 - How to fall off (MSOHP!)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Chris N Deuchar, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. Dear all, a long time since I visited here and nice to see nothing
    has really changed :)

    However, being an Isle of Man fanatic, this year SWMBO and I decided
    to go the old fogies route of doing the IoM coatal path in July.
    Having done the IoM stuff previously with gloriously powerful bikes,
    we decided instead of messing about with public transport that we
    would take No1 sons CG125 in the back of our van and do a transport
    juggle each day as the walk progressed.

    After day three (using public tranport after all!) we decided to take
    the 125 into Douglas and have a run on the electric railway up to
    Ramsey. All went well until the return journey back to Glen Lough on
    the bike. Just by the railway station in Douglas I had to slow at the
    lights for someone just off the ferry and then as I crossed the
    junction I can't remember anything after changing into second gear
    (except something involving a computer game on a bike simulator :-/)
    until waking up in hospital. SWMBO had a shoulder injury which she is
    still recovering from and I had a bad head, and a black little toe,
    for a couple of weeks (although head still not perfect - but I am
    told this is normal). Other than that we were unscathed. (But you
    should have seen the guy covered in blood and with a broken arm who
    was admitted after us - he was riding a 30cc mini moto on a mates
    drive wearing tee shirt, shorts and trainers...)

    The bike had a broken indicator and bent footpeg but was otherwise
    unscathed. Apparently in my more delirious moments in hospital I kept
    asking after the welfare of the bike and was reassured countless
    times that it really would be ok by the side of the road all night
    and would still be there in the morning. I was sceptical. However,
    on returning to collect it with the van in the morning (SWMBO
    wouldn't let me ride it) there it was! Not only that but some kind
    soul had even collected the bits of broken indicator and put them in
    a neat pile on the wall by the bike! Only on the Isle of Man.

    So why did it happen?
    It was all at low speed (15mph?).
    No slippiness on the road.
    Bike in good condition
    No hard acceleration (it was a 125 after all with two middle aged and
    middle weight persons on board)

    Well those of you who know the IoM will know the traffic lights I
    mean. Leaving Douglas you are going uphill and the other road is also
    on a gradient down to the left. Therefore as you cross the lights you
    are going effectively diagonally across a two-way incline. This has
    never been a problem before so I looked at the bike...

    I was actually quite surprised to find that, at anything remotely
    uphill, the pillion's centre of gravity is over a point BEHIND the
    rear axle. This means the front end becomes light. The heavier the
    pillion, the lighter the front. Any acceleration will also exacerbate
    the lightness of the front wheel. This is why I my last memory before
    hitting the ground is of the front end skipping from side to side
    before I lost it.

    Is this a design fault?
    Can I sue Mr Honda for pain and suffering?
    What does the team think?

    Chris D
    PS. Obviously this, and Mr Mini Motos experience, prove the old adage
    that 'Small Bikes is DANGEROUS!'
     
    Chris N Deuchar, Nov 16, 2009
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    Nige Guest

    Sue Honda cos your wifes a fat ****?
    You should **** off.
     
    Nige, Nov 16, 2009
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    Simes Guest

    Hi again Chris.

    I think the design fault is with the road - and by extension with the
    shape of the Earth. Sue God. It's the only way.

    But, you already knew that.
     
    Simes, Nov 16, 2009
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    Steve Guest


    There's the problem - you should have counterbalanced this with 2
    small children perched on the tank.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Nov 16, 2009
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    darsy Guest

    <steve aylett>
    God has been found to exist, and the race is on to take revenge
    </sa>
     
    darsy, Nov 16, 2009
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  6. I think if a million Asians can negotiate uphill junctions every day
    without binning it, you've no chance.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 16, 2009
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  7. From Douglas round to just north of Peel where the winds blowing
    offshore made us fear for our safety on a stretch of cliff and we
    retired to a pub...

    For those who haven't tried, on the mainland parts of this path would
    be considered too dangerous for other than experienced climbers and
    athletes..:)

    We will do the rest another time - any excuse to go there more:)

    Chris D
     
    Chris N Deuchar, Nov 18, 2009
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  8. No one for you to concern yourself with :)
    Chris D
    (I was around a lot until about 2007 - when redundancy struck and I
    had to work harder to earn a living:))
     
    Chris N Deuchar, Nov 18, 2009
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  9. 'swot I thought :-(
    Chris D
     
    Chris N Deuchar, Nov 18, 2009
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