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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by srforbes, Mar 31, 2005.

  1. srforbes

    srforbes Guest

    There seems to be differing opinions on what I can ride with my CBT.
    Some have said a 125cc bike, thats it. Some have said a biggerbike with
    a restrictor is ok, as long s the power is 11kw. Some have said its all
    in the bhp.

    Can anyone advise if it is one, any or all of these? I don't fancy
    wasting money on a 125cc when I could restrict a bigger bike and when I
    pass my test, take the restrictor out.

    Thanks for any help.

    Steve
     
    srforbes, Mar 31, 2005
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  2. srforbes

    AndrewR Guest

    A CBT allows you to ride a bike of up to 125cc with a power output of not
    more than 11kw, you must display "L" plates.

    You can ride bigger bikes, but only when accompanied by a qualified
    instructor who is in radio contact with you, so it's not really that
    practical for every day use.

    The DVLA web-site tells you everything you need to know ...
    http://www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/rdmcycle.htm

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    No, you don't do that. You buy the bike you are going to ride.

    Folks in the trade tell me it knocks zillions off the resale value as
    well. Connotations with hooliganism and stuff, know what I mean?
     
    steve auvache, Mar 31, 2005
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  4. srforbes

    dwb Guest

    From
    http://www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/rdmcycle.htm#2. Compulsory Basic Training

    You can only learn to ride on motorcycles over 125cc if:
    a.. you are over 21 and accompanied by an approved instructor on a
    separate machine at all times, or

    b.. you are riding a motorcycle with a sidecar


    If you go up to the A1 category (or not DAS) then it's 33bhp (25kw) and a
    power/weight ratio not greater than 0.16kw/kg (a GSX-R1000 is approximately
    0.75kw/kg :)

    So in short I'd say you can't learn (on your own) on anything > 125.

    But what you could do is HIRE a 125, ride around on that - then do a DAS
    test and get what you want.
     
    dwb, Mar 31, 2005
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  5. srforbes

    srforbes Guest

    Thanks guys. I'm tempted then to save my cash and spend it on the DAS
    course, then save for the bike I want.
     
    srforbes, Mar 31, 2005
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  6. srforbes

    Catman Guest



    will give you a definitive answer. AFAIK it's the power that really
    matters, but limiting anything larger than a 125 to 12hp (or whatever it
    is) would be insane. Do DAS, YKIMS
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  7. srforbes

    Nick Guest

    This is what I did recently:

    Passed Theory Test in November

    Book a week off from work in February

    Pass CBT on Saturday in late January

    Panic as I'd never got on a bike before and do 2x"Half Day" courses on
    a 125 just to get used to the idea in early February and decide that I
    would ride around on a 125 with L-Plates for a while until I was ready
    for a Direct Access. Spoke with instructor at the end of the 2nd half
    day course and decided that I could save myself some money if I did my
    test on a 125 and do a restricted licence (no need to buy and insure a
    125)

    Do 4-day course in Feb and fail test.

    Buy '02 Kawasaki ER-5 with all the trimmings (and restrictor fitted)
    mid-Feb and hide it so that I wouldn't be tempted (too often)

    Rebook test and Pass it on 8th March on a 125 - gaining restricted
    licence.

    Today: I don't think I'll ever look back to cars. I've driven in
    snow, ice, hail, pissing rain and stupid winds. I still love it.

    My only regret is that I didn't do a full DAS test - but I just didn't
    have the confidence to do it at that stage. If you can do a DAS then
    please do. But don't discount doing a restricted licence, it'll tick
    over to a full A in 2 years anyway, and 2 years isn't long.

    After a while some peeps with restricted licences have been known to
    experience their restrictor "falling out" of their bike after they've
    gained enough confidence on the bike. Especially if their insurance
    company doesn't even care about seeing the certificate, or the
    existance of it.

    However, my restrictor is still doing its job for the time being, it's
    working its way out, though and may fall out altogether in a few
    months time. Officer. Or it may stay in until I stop scaring myself,
    which could be a good while yet.
     
    Nick, Mar 31, 2005
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  8. srforbes

    Nick Guest

    And I've been doing it on my own for less than a month. It seems like
    ages. Time flys when you're having fun, and all that.

    Also: Replying to your own posts is the new black.
     
    Nick, Mar 31, 2005
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  9. srforbes

    Pip Guest

    Ridden. Ridden, not driven. Especially useful when making a point
    about the contrast with driving a car.
    Bad form, old bean.
     
    Pip, Apr 1, 2005
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