CBF250 cold start issues

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by The_Deviant, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. The_Deviant

    The_Deviant Guest

    i recently purchased a 2006 honda CBF250, I find it very hard to start
    in the mornings. im not sure if there is a problem with my bike or
    not.

    i put my choke on full. and try to start the bike. however it wont
    successfully start until i give it some throttle. is this normal?
    because it doesnt seem like the choke is doing very much.

    i then have the problem where if i back off on the choke or throttle
    too quickly the engine dies and no matter what i do i cant start it
    for a couple of minutes. again, is this normal?

    yet, all this being said, if the engine is atleast warm i can put the
    choke on to say 1/2 and it will fire up to anything from 3000 -
    5000rpm without me opening the throttle to obtain the revs. makes
    starting very easy.

    any advice would be much appreciated.

    thanks,
    The_Deviant
     
    The_Deviant, Apr 19, 2009
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    MikeH Guest

    I don't know the bike nor the answer but, I wouldn't have thought there
    was a problem, if it's carbies.
    Engine cold... choke on full and throttle it to start. Choke sets the
    richness but throttle increases throughput of unprimed fuel system.
    Engine warm... part choke, possibly causes throttle to open a smidge
    which is all that's required, given the fuel system is still primed.
    What morning temperature are you talking anyway?
    MikeH
    (no mechanic)
     
    MikeH, Apr 19, 2009
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  3. Try experimenting with the choke, give it a little, then give it a little
    more if it doesn't start and so on from there
    try not to use any throttle, but if that doesn't work, you may have to.
    Same bikes with different people can show different tendencies.
    It is just a case of getting used to your bike if it has any idiosyncrasies,
    you will get to know them
     
    George W Frost, Apr 19, 2009
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    JL Guest

    A choke restricts air flow. Opening the throttle increases air flow.

    You have too much choke on for the temperature, trying pulling it on
    less.
    Yes that's called flooding it. You've got more juice than air in there
    and that makes it hard to restart.

    If you've got to hold open the throttle to start it then you need to
    keep playing with the throttle to keep it alive for a bit after it's
    going until it warms up.
    You shouldn't need choke on a warm engine.

    JL
     
    JL, Apr 19, 2009
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    VTR250 Guest

    I used to have a similar problem with cold starts (Honda VTR 250) and
    the amount of choke I was giving it was definitely contributing to the
    problem. Once you get yourself convinced there's a problem starting
    you may find yourself experimenting by giving it a bit more choke...
    and you could now be a part of the problem. Don't blip the throttle
    before starting (or before killing it the previous day). Don't give
    it any throttle whilst starting. This morning was 8 deg C and I put
    the choke lever to 50% and held in the starter. It started after
    about a second. What state are you in? When is the next service due?
     
    VTR250, Apr 20, 2009
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    madbiker666 Guest

    typical honda thing, only give it a smidgion of choke if its really
    cold, but try it with out the choke.
     
    madbiker666, Apr 20, 2009
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    The_Deviant Guest

    thanks for the help. ill give all the options a go over the next few
    days and get back to you.

    im in Victoria, and its about 10 degrees or so when i try to fire it
    up.

    it was serviced at about 15000K's due for the next at 20 000K's. its
    currently at about 17500K's

    thanks,

    The_Deviant
     
    The_Deviant, Apr 20, 2009
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