CB72 - It lives!

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Mike Buckley, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. Mike Buckley

    Mike Buckley Guest

    Moved under its own power for the first time in at least 25 years:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/39665805@N05/4426557037/in/set-7215762250168
    7588/

    Right hand pot doesn't like running under 1500 rpm which makes starting
    from cold a fine art. I've got a new pilot jet which I hope will fix
    that.

    A few other bolts to tighten and split pins to fix and it can be given a
    test ride.

    Amazingly the 30 year old rectifier works, I was anticipating grief with
    the charging.
     
    Mike Buckley, Mar 12, 2010
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    Jeremy Guest

    Beautiful, really nice job. I have enjoyed seeing this project unfold
    through your posts over the years.

    Is that the word HAGON I can can see on the shocks?
     
    Jeremy, Mar 12, 2010
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  3. Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 12, 2010
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  4. Mike Buckley

    Mike Buckley Guest

    Yup, original shocks are unobtainable and the ones on the bike were
    shot.
     
    Mike Buckley, Mar 12, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    Lord yes it does. I haven't ridden one of those since 1979

    <hurries off to clone number plate>
     
    'Hog, Mar 12, 2010
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  6. Beautiful job, young Pigwanker. Just beautiful.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 12, 2010
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    mark Guest

    mark, Mar 12, 2010
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    boxerboy Guest

    <Drool>

    Boxerboy
     
    boxerboy, Mar 12, 2010
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    That looks rather nice, congrats to a job well done.
     
    Timo Geusch, Mar 12, 2010
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    A.Clews, Mar 15, 2010
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  11. Austin Shackles, Mar 16, 2010
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  12. Mike Buckley

    Mike Buckley Guest

    Wish it ran like it. Hopefully new genuine pilot jet arrives tomorrow.
     
    Mike Buckley, Mar 16, 2010
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    Mike Buckley Guest

    Bad form etc. The pilot jet fixed the idle problem but can anybody
    explain when ignition advance should kick in? The CB has a spring
    mechanism on the cam shaft which advances the ignition, on mine it
    appears to be advancing as soon as you open the throttle, I thought
    advance happened higher up the rev range?
     
    Mike Buckley, Mar 18, 2010
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  14. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Mike Buckley
    This is the bit where I say:

    "**** originality, Boyer Bransden are your friends".

    Seriously, springs? **** that. Put them away in a box, so you can pass
    them on if you sell it.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 18, 2010
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    crn Guest

    What are you using to test it, this does not sound right.
    You need a proper strobe timing light, there will be timing marks ISTR
    under a cover on the LHS but ICBW.
    Do you have a Haynes or similar BOL ?.
     
    crn, Mar 19, 2010
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  16. Yours is doing what it's supposed to do. It's springs: the moment the AA
    plate starts twirling, centrifugal force is going to start stretcvhing
    them.

    It's a very crude system. But it works.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 19, 2010
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    Mike Buckley Guest

    I have a proper strobe light (tenner from Amazon), and it shows my
    static timing was pretty much spot on, but the slightest rev increase
    and it advances quite a lot. Weak advance springs seem to be a bit of a
    problem on these. They can be replaced, possibly without removing the
    camshaft, but even so the engine has to be dropped in the frame.

    Electronic ignition is available (for about $300!!) but it still relies
    on the mechanical advance on the camshaft, so in this case I might get
    some benefits but not really the one I'm most after. They also recommend
    going to Dyna coils at the same time, so even more expense.


    I'll see how it goes on the road before deciding what to do.
     
    Mike Buckley, Mar 19, 2010
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    Tim Guest

    If it's the same as on my old CB250-K4 then the spring has weakened and
    the cam is going to full adjust too early. There were a pair of springs
    on my one.
     
    Tim, Mar 19, 2010
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    Tim Guest

    Drop the engine just to reach the timing adjust springs? Yeuk. On the K4
    they were under a nice shiny cover held by two 8mm bolts.
     
    Tim, Mar 19, 2010
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    crn Guest

    It should be on the static marks at tickover and then advance progressively,
    reaching the full advance marks at typically around 2800 rpm [1].
    If is advances too early it will lack torque at low rpm for pulling away.

    [1] 2800 is from memory, RTFM if you have one, someone will doubtless
    tell me that I have it rong <B-).
     
    crn, Mar 19, 2010
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