CB 750 Custom

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by lwatters38, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. lwatters38

    lwatters38 Guest

    I have a 1981 CB750 Custom and the charging system I know is going bad
    could it also cause a high rpm miss?
    I've checked the plugs and they are in excellent shape I'm leaning
    toward the carbs need work,I'm interested in what others may
    think......
     
    lwatters38, Aug 14, 2008
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  2. lwatters38

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Quite possibly, yes.
    Sort the charging system first. One way to check is to lob a brand new
    fully charged battery in. It should run fine at high rpm for a while,
    until it starts to discharge. If it misfires straightaway with a brand
    new battery, then the problem lies elsewhere.

    It's unlikely to be the carbs unless the bike has been laid up for
    some time and the fuel has evaporated in the carbs themselves. My next
    port of call would be the plug caps, and then, yes, the carbs.
     
    TOG@Toil, Aug 14, 2008
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  3. lwatters38

    lwatters38 Guest

    I went ahead and purchased a new rotor, reg-rec,brushes and stator do
    you know how hard it will be to get the rotor off i did purchase the
    special tool to remove....
     
    lwatters38, Aug 14, 2008
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  4. If you bought the right tool (and well done for doing so), then it's
    easy. Just block the back wheel (stick it in gear and shove a broom
    handle through the spokes to stop the wheel turning), and wind in the
    extractor.

    So often, people buy those three-legged pullers instead and rip the
    rotor apart.

    That said, I think you've gone too far: I mean, I seriously doubt the
    reg/rec, rotor, stator *and* brushes are all fucked, but hell, if it
    doesn't work when you've replaced that lot....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 14, 2008
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  5. lwatters38

    lwatters38 Guest

    I know the reg-rec is shoot as well as the rotor so i figured while
    I've got it apart I'd replace the stator and brushes
    I also bought a nice little voltmeter gauge to let me know it the
    charging system is not charging while riding....
    Thanks for the help...
     
    lwatters38, Aug 14, 2008
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    paul c Guest

    I was told by a long-time specialist on the 70's and 80's big Hondas
    that it was quite common to see rotors and stators damaged from a simple
    tip-over while parked because the aluminum housings that keep them
    aligned are easily distorted. Sure enough, when I replaced friend's
    rotor, you could see the scuff marks on the bad rotor. Luckily, he had
    a parts bike with an intact right cover.

    I think it was on the cb1100f.net forum where I saw the advice that the
    rear axle from the cb750 makes a workable rotor puller. In my case
    friend had a parts bike, so I used that one's axle with a pretty weak
    electric torque wrench, locked the rear wheel as best I could and in two
    or three blips of the wrench, off it came. Undoubtedly the special
    puller is preferable to avoid turning the engine backwards but
    apparently many have used the axle trick without harm. Of course, my
    friend didn't want to spend money on special tools! If I were doing it
    again and had no parts axle, I'd simply buy a similar bolt in as high a
    tensile grade as I could and round the tip with a grinder to simulate
    the axle. I'd always be on a budget with such a bike, nobody would let
    me learn on their show bike!


    The expert (Mike Nixon at themotorcycleproject.com , nice guy) gave me
    quite a few pointers, one of them was to measure the charging current by
    substituting the multi-meter leads for the main fuse contacts and
    putting the meter on the main fuse contacts (ie. remove the fuse). Even
    low-cost meters these days can measure up to 10 ampere dc current for a
    short time. He advised that 5-7 amps was good. It seems this is a
    more thorough charging test than voltage across the battery. If you
    could borrow clamp meter from somebody, that would make it even easier.
     
    paul c, Aug 15, 2008
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  7. lwatters38

    paul c Guest

    paul c wrote:
    ....
    Oh, another on-a-budget trick Mike has at his website is how to make a
    high-current meter out of #8 wire and a couple of clamps for less than 5
    bucks. Seems 6 5/8ths or so inches of this wire has exactly .001 ohms
    resistance so you just put your meter on dc milli-volts and pretend they
    are amps! Not needed in this case, but useful for deciding that your
    starter is bad before you pull it out.
     
    paul c, Aug 15, 2008
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  8. Interesting. I hadn't heard that.
    This is true of many bikes.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 15, 2008
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