Carb Removal Maxim x

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by jrine, Aug 9, 2006.

  1. jrine

    jrine Guest

    Hi,

    Ive finally decided to try and work on the carbs of my Yamaha Maxim X.
    I got a few books on maxims but not specifically the maxim X. They
    make it look like I should have 3 or 4 inches of room to move the carbs
    back away from the engine. I did all the disconnects like described
    and looked it over, then looked it over again.

    I pushed the Air Filter housing back (moved like an inch till it hit
    the frame). Pulled and pulled, wiggled and jimmied, till the carbs
    came off the intakes to the engine, but now they are stuck trying to
    remove out the side of the frame. Basically what I have is the
    throttle link is inside one the intakes and preventing me from moving
    it further. I can't lift the link and pull the carbs at the same time.

    So my question is, Should there have been an easier way? Should I have
    taken off the intakes from the engine as well? I fell I might open a
    can of worms way bigger than I opened so far.

    I guess I can get my wife to put a screw driver down in the hole to
    maybe old the linkage up?

    I just think it should of come out much easier. The pics in the book
    looked so simple.

    I am sure they need to come out also as now I can look in at the main
    jet? and see alot of crap on it. so a good soaking is in order for
    these carbs.

    Thanks in advance for hearing my rant and any tips you have on taking
    carbs off.
     
    jrine, Aug 9, 2006
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  2. It is for people that do this all day long. (not me)

    What about pulling the engine mounts and rocking the engine forward
    in the frame?

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 9, 2006
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  3. Getting banks of carbs out of some old bikes can be a nightmare. Getting
    them back in can be even worse, with the hardened rubbers (soften them
    with boiling water first).

    I always remove, or at the very least loosen, the engine-->carb rubbers
    as well as the carb-->airbox ones.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2006
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  4. jrine

    jrine Guest

    Ok they came out. What a fight. I hope like crazy that I didn't mess
    anything else up pulling them out. Now the big question is can I get
    them back in? Oh and they reek like a paint factory (laquer). This
    should be an interesting weekend cleaning them up.

    So:

    Step 1: clean carbs
    step 2: replace plugs
    Step 3: Get new battery - confirmed its shot
    Step 4: Oil change
    Step 5: Replace carbs
    Step 6: Find away to synch carbs.

    And that brings me to my next question, how do you use those yics
    sticks and how critical is it to synch carbs (how soon should I do it)?
     
    jrine, Aug 10, 2006
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  5. Here's the deal on syncing.

    First of all, syncing mostly helps when the throttle plates are closed, or
    nearly closed. Bikes that are out of sync tend to idle high and fast
    and have no engine braking. That is also a recipie for overheating in
    city traffic. They also often end up with screwed up mixture screws
    because the owners try to compensate for the bad synchronization
    by screwing with the idle adjustments, and are often misdiagnosed as
    having leaking intake boots, etc.

    The idea behind syncing is to get equal vacuum in all cylinder
    intakes. If all cylinders are equal in sealing ability and displacement,
    then when they are all at the same vacuum the throttle plates will be
    in the same position. Thus follows a very important point - the more
    likely the cylinders are even, the closer to synchronization a perfect
    alignment of
    throttle plates will put the bike.

    So, when reassembling the carbs after cleaning them, you want to
    start by making sure that all throttle butterflies are in alignment,
    before putting the carbs back on. There's many tricks the most
    common is putting a strong light behind the carbs and looking through
    the throats while the throttle butterflies are completely closed.

    If your lucky, your engine will be more or less even between all
    cylinders when you put the carbs back on, and the carbs will have
    only a minor mis sync, not enough to really even notice. Which is
    fine because until a valve adjustment is made, you shouldnt be
    bothering with syncing.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 10, 2006
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  6. Ted has replied about the carb synching. You need to have the valves
    correctly adjusted first, as he said. And the ignition, but with
    electronic ignition that's not an issue.

    YICS - there is a very definite technique to balancing YICS Yamaha
    carbs (I had an XJ550 a while back and needed to refer to it). Can't
    remember the website, but there is a good one out there. Google is your
    friend.
     
    chateau.murray, Aug 10, 2006
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  7. jrine

    jrine Guest

    jrine wrote:
    Ok, I got them out and opened up float bowl. What a mess. I took out
    the main jet "screw" I believe it is just called a "main jet #100."
    soaked it. I had one nasty stuck float valve, was able to free it and
    cleaned it real good.

    Well I putting the whole mess back together after cleaning all the
    parts I could without opening the top. And my luck ran out.

    One of the Main Jets just snaped off right in the hole!!!! I mean come
    on!!!

    Sooooo I finally found where to order one for 9.35 +10.00 shipping.

    My questions now are, Is there a place that has alot of maximx parts?
    Is there a way to extract that bugger?? Because if not, I see that the
    jet tube that it screws into is not available.

    I thought I found a place that had everything but can't find it. It was
    like jd or jr or sr or something like that motorcycle.

    I really need help on this one!!
     
    jrine, Aug 11, 2006
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  8. You never try remove carburetor jets from an old carb unless you have given
    it a nice long soak in carburetor cleaner, or the jets a nice long soak with
    PB Blaster or other penetrating oil. (Note: WD-40 is NOT penetrating oil)
    Nor do you ever remove staked screws (like those that hold the throttle
    butterflies onto the throttle shaft) If the throttle butterflies are frozen
    in
    the bores, soak the carb for a day in a can of carb cleaner then try turning
    them. If you still can't, junk the carb and buy another from a wrecker.
    If you can't extract it with penetrating oil, and a screw extractor, then
    your screwed, junk the carb. Frankly it sounds to me like the carbs are
    junk anyway. If the main jet snapped when you were screwing it back
    in, rather than taking it out, that sounds like you cross threaded it.
    JC Whitney?

    I have found it very difficult to get aftermarket motorcycle parts over
    the counter. Even things as basic as oil filters - the only 2 places in
    town that carry the ones for my bike are Walmart and Shucks, both
    national chains where the store managers have no control over what
    is stocked in the store, and clearly the national chain has much better
    sales of that filter elsewhere in the country.

    When it's dealer only items, or apparel, or tires I will go to the
    motorcycle
    dealer but otherwise I buy the stuff online. JC Whitney has some of the
    cheapest
    prices around for some items, but they are very hit and miss - they carry
    some good items but right next to them are some of the stupidest items
    imaginable.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 11, 2006
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  9. jrine

    joercomish Guest

    Update:

    Ok, this is for future reference:

    Push Air boots back to be flush with airbox. That means take the
    clamps OFF of the airboot.

    Would of taken me about 10 min to remove carbs rather than 2 hours of
    fighting the intake and air boots.

    Carbs slid back in bike like a silk glove. Now problem is getting
    airboots onto the air intakes. You have to use a large "not sharp"
    screwdriver to pry the boots out and use your 3rd hand to push the boot
    onto the carb at the same time. Wholly smokes do I have big hands.

    So, my list is about done. cleaned carbs, replaced battery, changed
    spark plugs. Now I need to see if it starts tonight and then after
    running it a bit, change the oil and oil filter.

    Can anyone recommend an oil?

    Thanks
     
    joercomish, Aug 18, 2006
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  10. jrine

    dg Guest

    Yes; sir ... Mobil 1 car oil is very OK,work's for me.......
    My regards....
    ..
     
    dg, Aug 20, 2006
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