Carb icing

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ogden, Mar 25, 2005.

  1. ogden

    ogden Guest

    As per subject, are 7Rs particularly vulnerable to it?

    I had it non-stop from Maidenhead to Bodmin on Tuesday. Not the most
    auspicious start to a road trip.
     
    ogden, Mar 25, 2005
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    Elly Guest

    Don't know about the 7R, but my 9R suffered from terrible carb icing -
    to the extent that it was almost unrideable (1).

    However, I found a couple of things that solved the problem. Wynn's
    Dry Fuel and Silkolene FST (2) both do exactly as they say on the tin.
    I've had no problems with carb icing since using one or the other,
    even when temperatures are below freezing.

    (1) Unless you keep a positive throttle all the time and go faster and
    faster - I don't think the constabules would accept 'sorry officer, I
    was doing 120 to stop the carbs from icing'.

    (2) Available from most proper car/motorcycle type shops - you may
    need to ask and they'll get it in for you.

    HTH

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    Elly, Mar 25, 2005
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  3. ogden

    Salad Dodger Guest

    To check whether a bike is particularly susceptible to carb icing, you
    first need to check the fuel tank.

    If it's got a big word beginning with "K" on each side, then the
    answer is "yes".
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    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
    |_\_____/_| ..73392../..18192.../..3184./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
    '^' RBR Landmarks: 0 Points: 0 Miles: 0
     
    Salad Dodger, Mar 25, 2005
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  4. ogden

    Christofire Guest

    You might have a point there.
     
    Christofire, Mar 25, 2005
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  5. Iso Propyl Alcohol is the ingredient that does the work. ZX9's had a mod
    to up the coolant temp with a different thermostat. MAKe sure the collent
    filter for the carbs is clean.

    http://www.brunelmicroscopes.co.uk/acatalog/Solvents___Reagents.html

    You can buy a tanker full:

    http://www.hayman.co.uk/finealcohol/default.htm
     
    eric the brave, Mar 25, 2005
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  6. ogden

    Lozzo Guest

    eric the brave says...
    I've found that not using the bike in cold weather works well. Having
    said that, on the occasions when mine has been out in extremely cold
    weather, the carb de-icing kit I have on my carbs does a fine job.
     
    Lozzo, Mar 25, 2005
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  7. ogden

    ogden Guest

    It wasn't really that cold, just a bit chilly and very very damp.

    As the whole point of the trip was to rack up 700 miles or so on two
    wheels (as a warm-up for the French Run), using the car instead wasn't
    really an option :)
     
    ogden, Mar 25, 2005
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  8. ogden

    Kiran Guest

    Exactly - freezing or below, there's usually very little water in the air,
    which you need for carb icing.
     
    Kiran, Mar 25, 2005
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  9. ogden

    Kiran Guest

    Summat to do with primary and secondary jets (IANAE tho). The primary
    (smaller one) is the one that gets blocked up, so at low revs, the bike
    really stutters. Open the throttle to get the secondary jet open, and it
    goes fine. But, after every run whenI had carb icing, my bike would give off
    a small amount of blue smoke on the overrun. Hundred or so miles would clear
    it again, but it was always noticeable after an incident of carb icing, when
    I decided just to crack the throttle open and keep goping, rather than stop,
    let it all warm up, and then carry on.

    TBH, I used that Silkolene FST stuff on the 6R. Made not one jot of a
    difference. Still, they do it in small enough bottles to keep under the seat
    so you might as well give it a go.
     
    Kiran, Mar 25, 2005
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  10. ogden

    Kiran Guest

    I'm not sure why you're so worried about "warming up" for the French run.
    It's only about 130 or so miles from Calais IIRC.
     
    Kiran, Mar 25, 2005
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  11. To be fair, nailing it down Streatham High Road isn't easy at any time
    of the day.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 25, 2005
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  12. ogden

    Lozzo Guest

    Bear says...
    I never claimed to be any kind of mechanic.
    I'd better sort out an invoice and then a credit note.
     
    Lozzo, Mar 25, 2005
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