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What this thread needs is less bs and more facts. Perhaps Molly could be the test pilot at her favourite roundabout where she was pulled by the fuzz. The way to test whether bikes or cars corner faster, eliminating such irrelevant factors as brakes and acceleration, is to go round a circular roundabout at the highest constant speed you can manage, with a pal to time you over enough laps to get an accurate time. The speedo is no use as one of the car's driven wheels will be spinning and the bike's effective wheel size is reduced when it's on the sidewalls.
MY SV corners faster than my Renault Espace. But not with 6 passengers. -- John SV650 Black it is and naked
You've driven an SL55AMG, have you? They handle remarkably well - not quite as nimble as the rivals in the 500bhp sector (Gallardo, 911 Turbo, F360M) but a good deal better than many, many cars on the road.
No. Because a large number of other cars are Vauxhall Vectras, and Jeep Cherokees, and FIAT Stilos, etc. I think it corners quickly than most other cars. Only about, say, 5pc of cars will corner quicker. But they are all cheap, and for that reason they are all shit. The Merc is an excellent car, by any measure. FWIW, the only one of your list of four that I would own would be the Westfield. If you're going to have an Elise you might as well go the whole hog and get a seven-rep. The Westfield is as good as the Caterham, and cheaper because of the (lack of) badge. TVRs are awful, shoddy heaps of rattly shit. They're quite quick, but not *good*. I doubt that Joe Average in an Elise would lose me in an SL55 down a country lane.
I was using your comparison terms: "compared to a large number of other cars". And saying that /in those terms/ it's pretty good. Which of TVR, Caterham, Westfield and Elise is 100K? No it's not. In itself, my statement holds water. It is an excellent car. It's well-built, good-looking, fast, comfortable, reliable, good residuals, safe, it's a convertible hardtop. I can't think of many drawbacks. Ok, maybe the boot space is a bit limited when the roof is down. Big deal. This is just you trying to justify not liking it - and possibly - not being able to afford one. It is a good car. You cannot dispute that. You'll be hard pushed to find anyone who dislikes Clarkson as much as me, so you're barking up the wrong tree using that as an argument. I dislike Clarkson, and I still think that the SL55AMG is a good car. Sorry. I don't agree. I wasn't talking about the superbike v supercar cornering this. I was just talking. Because a seven-rep is the last word in comfort? Oh, we're back to the SL55, aren't we. I'd also dispute that the Elise is anymore usable in the "real world" (God, I hate that expression; always used by people who think that their world is any more real than anyone else's) than a seven-style car. I have enough experience of TVRs to know that they are not "good" cars. The ones I've driven I considered rattly. Any one, but have it your way: I don't that Joe Average in a race-prepped Elise would lose me in an SL55 down a country lane. What you're missing, you see - what you're always missing - is that it's not always the wheels, it's the pilot. Joe Average again? I'd hold my own.
Chap at work has just got one. As Blaneynan says, it's a fucking nice car, although I think the AMG wheels are a bit pants tbh. But for that money and in that price bracket, I'd be sorely tempted by the new DB9. Thing is, the SL55AMG is becoming a bit common in London, can't go a day without seeing a few.[1] [1] Of course, this would not stop me buying one if I could afford it.
My Honda Civic corners quicker round tight corners than my GSXR1000. Mainly because I'm not worried about falling off my car.
Ian says... My little sister owned a Westfield, she is unbelievably fast behind the wheel. Prior to the Westfield she owned an Opel Manta 2 litre bored to 2.4 with aftermarket turbo. Not chick-wheels you say?
Ian says... I've driven and worked on the interiors of many TVRs, badly nailed together is how I'd describe them. They do offer a good driving experience though.
Ian says... <snip list> If I had 100K to spend on a car, it would have to be the Merc SL55 or the Audi RS6. None of the others are built to a standard that to me can justify their price tag. It's about quality, not quantity. I've worked on supercars and the like for years until 2 years ago and none of the more 'specialist' manufacturers seem able to make a car that doesn't fall apart and show its age after a couple of years. Sure they may deliver bigger numbers, but that's pretty useless when they are sitting in the dealers waiting for repairs and parts with the interiors rattling around. With the Merc and the Audi you get in, turn the key and just know they will deliver the goods day in day out.
For that kind of money I'd quite like to talk to Jaguar Special Projects Division, and get one of the 'not off the shelf' versions of either an Stype or an XJ.
ah, right, so the merc corners very well compared with a Harley Electraglide Ultra Classic... mind, you ever see that film of the wossname, erm, (bugrrit, on the tip of me tongue), display team riding them white full-dress harleys around quite a tight obstacle course at a fair speed, next-to-miraculous, is that...