Car vs. bike conrnering speeds

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Ace, Apr 16, 2004.

  1. Ace

    platypus Guest

    Mohs Ostentatienne Opera Sedan.

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    platypus, Apr 16, 2004
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  2. Steering damper then. Remove it for a while...

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    eric the brave, Apr 16, 2004
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  3. I should bl**dy hope it would do. Although it is a bit of a tank...

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    eric the brave, Apr 16, 2004
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  4. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember Austin Shackles
    The 1967 Cadillac convertible in "To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything!
    Julie Newmar".

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 16, 2004
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  5. Ace

    Ben Guest

    Na, I'm used to riding with one, had one on the 750. I think it's
    just me being crap really.
     
    Ben, Apr 16, 2004
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    Molly Guest

    It's also has a lot to do with the pilot.
     
    Molly, Apr 16, 2004
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  7. What this thread needs is less bs and more facts.
    Perhaps Molly could be the test pilot at her favourite
    roundabout where she was pulled by the fuzz.

    The way to test whether bikes or cars corner faster,
    eliminating such irrelevant factors as brakes and
    acceleration, is to go round a circular roundabout
    at the highest constant speed you can manage,
    with a pal to time you over enough laps to get an accurate
    time.

    The speedo is no use as one of the car's driven wheels
    will be spinning and the bike's effective wheel size
    is reduced when it's on the sidewalls.
     
    Old Fart at Play, Apr 17, 2004
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    jsp Guest

    MY SV corners faster than my Renault Espace. But not with 6 passengers.

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    jsp, Apr 17, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    You've driven an SL55AMG, have you? They handle remarkably well - not
    quite as nimble as the rivals in the 500bhp sector (Gallardo, 911
    Turbo, F360M) but a good deal better than many, many cars on the road.
     
    Ben Blaney, Apr 17, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    No. Because a large number of other cars are Vauxhall Vectras, and
    Jeep Cherokees, and FIAT Stilos, etc.
    I think it corners quickly than most other cars. Only about, say, 5pc
    of cars will corner quicker.
    But they are all cheap, and for that reason they are all shit. The
    Merc is an excellent car, by any measure.

    FWIW, the only one of your list of four that I would own would be the
    Westfield. If you're going to have an Elise you might as well go the
    whole hog and get a seven-rep. The Westfield is as good as the
    Caterham, and cheaper because of the (lack of) badge. TVRs are awful,
    shoddy heaps of rattly shit. They're quite quick, but not *good*.

    I doubt that Joe Average in an Elise would lose me in an SL55 down a
    country lane.
     
    Ben Blaney, Apr 17, 2004
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  11. Ace

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I was using your comparison terms: "compared to a large number of
    other cars".

    And saying that /in those terms/ it's pretty good.
    Which of TVR, Caterham, Westfield and Elise is 100K?
    No it's not. In itself, my statement holds water. It is an excellent
    car. It's well-built, good-looking, fast, comfortable, reliable, good
    residuals, safe, it's a convertible hardtop. I can't think of many
    drawbacks. Ok, maybe the boot space is a bit limited when the roof is
    down. Big deal.
    This is just you trying to justify not liking it - and possibly - not
    being able to afford one.

    It is a good car. You cannot dispute that.
    You'll be hard pushed to find anyone who dislikes Clarkson as much as
    me, so you're barking up the wrong tree using that as an argument. I
    dislike Clarkson, and I still think that the SL55AMG is a good car.
    Sorry.
    I don't agree.
    I wasn't talking about the superbike v supercar cornering this. I was
    just talking.
    Because a seven-rep is the last word in comfort? Oh, we're back to
    the SL55, aren't we.

    I'd also dispute that the Elise is anymore usable in the "real world"
    (God, I hate that expression; always used by people who think that
    their world is any more real than anyone else's) than a seven-style
    car.

    I have enough experience of TVRs to know that they are not "good"
    cars. The ones I've driven I considered rattly.
    Any one, but have it your way: I don't that Joe Average in a
    race-prepped Elise would lose me in an SL55 down a country lane.

    What you're missing, you see - what you're always missing - is that
    it's not always the wheels, it's the pilot.
    Joe Average again? I'd hold my own.
     
    Ben Blaney, Apr 17, 2004
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    Kiran Guest

    Chap at work has just got one. As Blaneynan says, it's a fucking nice car,
    although I think the AMG wheels are a bit pants tbh. But for that money and
    in that price bracket, I'd be sorely tempted by the new DB9. Thing is, the
    SL55AMG is becoming a bit common in London, can't go a day without seeing a
    few.[1]

    [1] Of course, this would not stop me buying one if I could afford it.
     
    Kiran, Apr 17, 2004
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    Kiran Guest

    Well, thankfully, we're not all like you.
     
    Kiran, Apr 17, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    My Honda Civic corners quicker round tight corners than my GSXR1000.
    Mainly because I'm not worried about falling off my car.
     
    Ben, Apr 17, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Ian says...
    My little sister owned a Westfield, she is unbelievably fast behind the
    wheel. Prior to the Westfield she owned an Opel Manta 2 litre bored to
    2.4 with aftermarket turbo. Not chick-wheels you say?
     
    Lozzo, Apr 17, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Ian says...
    I've driven and worked on the interiors of many TVRs, badly nailed
    together is how I'd describe them. They do offer a good driving
    experience though.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 17, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Ian says...
    <snip list>

    If I had 100K to spend on a car, it would have to be the Merc SL55 or
    the Audi RS6. None of the others are built to a standard that to me can
    justify their price tag. It's about quality, not quantity. I've worked
    on supercars and the like for years until 2 years ago and none of the
    more 'specialist' manufacturers seem able to make a car that doesn't
    fall apart and show its age after a couple of years.

    Sure they may deliver bigger numbers, but that's pretty useless when
    they are sitting in the dealers waiting for repairs and parts with the
    interiors rattling around. With the Merc and the Audi you get in, turn
    the key and just know they will deliver the goods day in day out.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 17, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    For that kind of money I'd quite like to talk to Jaguar Special Projects
    Division, and get one of the 'not off the shelf' versions of either an
    Stype or an XJ.
     
    Ginge, Apr 17, 2004
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  19. Christ on a crutch, that's about as much as my Land Rover 110.
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 17, 2004
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  20. ah, right, so the merc corners very well compared with a Harley Electraglide
    Ultra Classic...

    mind, you ever see that film of the wossname, erm, (bugrrit, on the tip of
    me tongue), display team riding them white full-dress harleys around quite a
    tight obstacle course at a fair speed, next-to-miraculous, is that...
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 17, 2004
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