They did a GSXR1000 v a Westfield XTR4 track day special round Anglesey and the bike lost. I must have misremembered their previous test as the 999 had beaten a lamborghini of some sort and not lost as I thought -- Alex Hermes: "We can't afford that! Especially not Zoidberg!" Zoidberg: "They took away my credit cards!" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
Fair play to Kev whatsit though, he was definitely trying on the Gixxer. Well, he was definitely making it look as if he was trying anyway. The bit that made me laugh on the prog was VBH's 24 hour experience. Slept peacefully all night (a first if UKRM is to be believed) and only drove after the sun was well and truly up on day 2. I could do that. I've got the tits for it anyway. -- Gyp BOTAFOT#99, BotToS#4, UKRMT5BB, DIAABTCOD#28, HYPO#4 '81 R65RS - SORN but not forgotten '89 R80RT - intercontinental ballistic tourer '97 XLH1200 - weapon of muff disruption '04 Z750 - oh look, something from this millennium Take out the chemical loo to reply
Audi/VW 1.8T remapped to about 250bhp And Anglesey is a very small twisy circuit which favours the car -- Alex Hermes: "We can't afford that! Especially not Zoidberg!" Zoidberg: "They took away my credit cards!" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
They did a GSXR1000 v a Westfield XTR4 track day special round Anglesey Hardly surprising really. [1] The bike is a mass produced product. [2] The car is basically "hand built". The bike did brilliant all things considered. They should have compared the bike with a car placed (relatively) in the same part of the market (does that make sense?) The guy with the bike (dunno his name) said there was another 1 sec a lap in the gixxer if he could have adjusted the suspension a bit. "No" He was told (by Jason "Ramming Speed!" Plato) it has to be as it came out of the showroom. Showroom?? A car like that?? Gimme a break son! Dave
These things are *always* bollocks. WTF is the point of pitting a factory made sub £10k bike against a >£50k supercar? Stick a bike up against a Scooby or some twat in a souped up Nova, and show it in a real world comparison.
I think the point is that last time they did that the Ducati beat the Lamborghini and being a car program they wanted to make sure that this wouldn't happen again. -- Alex Hermes: "We can't afford that! Especially not Zoidberg!" Zoidberg: "They took away my credit cards!" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
If you want real world comparisons, how about doing it when its raining or icy? Or start the clock running before the biker has got his gear on? Or first to cover 300 miles without a fuel stop?
In FHM this month they test a ferrari against various cars including a souped up go-kart that does 175mph, and a thing called "the bug" that only has three wheels. Also there were souped up scoobies and various "boy racer cars" with nitrous and ridiculous amounts of BHP. 90% of the cars entered beat the "bog standard" ferrari. However... put them against an equally tuned bike and it would have been a different story. The cars were tested in an all out straight line race where a bike would have made less than 3 seconds on the 0-60 thrashing the pants off everything in sight. Sadly since I've only just passed my bike test it will be a couple of years before I get a fast bike :-( Mind you... on the 2nd day of my DAS my instructor told me to "blow away the twat in the Seat LEON" on the dual carriage way which I did with ease on an ER-5! Wicked!
That should be part of the test. "Now Mr Smith - I'd like you to show up all the cars in front, stoppie at the next of lights, then make a half-doughnut and come back here."
LOL... well it's a fond memory I have. It was part of our "overtaking maneuvers" bit of the day, and it was a quick acceleration up to 80mph and then back in and back to 70mph.. wasn't really a "race the car till the next turn off". But the acceleration on even an ER-5 is quite awesome when you've been driving cars! (oops probably shouldn't mention the C word here should I ;-)
Exactly it is an argument with no possible hope of a definative answer. Which is why as an issue it will never go away.
CT () wrote: : You may be right, but I can't recall many bike vs car tests : where the bike has won. They're generally very close but if bends : are involved then the car can put so much traction down it's a : non-contest. F1 and MotoGP both used the Istanbul track for the first time this season. The F1 pole time was 1:26.797 and MotoGP was 1:52.334 over a 3.34 mile circuit. That's a hell of a gap. Blair '03 1150GS '97 CBR600
....but then at brands the Boss cars are not much quicker than standard production road bikes. It all depends what car and what bike you choose.
Istanbul was designed, first and foremost, as a F1 circuit to suit F1 requirements. Anything else is a bonus.
In the 'real world' anyone with a clue leaves their bike at home when it's raining or icy so how about only doing it on nice sunny days or on a congested motorway and have it first to 450 miles including stops?
