Car cop's lethal death toll -- The Welsh Traffic Talban speaks..

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Real Archibald, Apr 28, 2004.

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    deadmail Guest

    I'm certainly not greatly bothered about it. I'd rather enjoy the life
    I have and run some risks.
     
    deadmail, May 1, 2004
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    SP Guest

    steve auvache says...
    Heh, I stopped buying it before the UKRM scam..so it's been quite a long
    time.
    Yup, one of the regulars in my pub was talking about the alleged Aprilia
    fall-down. That was incorrect.
    I haven't read it for years. In fact, I find it hard to buy any of the
    bike mags atm because they are so full of crap it is unbelievable.

    Although for some reason wheover runs the MCN site sent me some spam
    t'other day. A fiver off getting into BSB on Monday. Not bad for
    someone who hasn't bought the paper for about 4 years, eh?

    --
    Lesley
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    SBS#11[with oak-leaf cluster]
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    BONY#54P BOB#18

    Un-cork me to reply
     
    SP, May 1, 2004
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    deadmail Guest

    You owned a GT250 (guess) around 20 years ago.

    I don't think you can remember that much and, to be honest, the GT250's
    characteristics and those of a modern bike are very, very different;
    after all the GT250 design is now > 30 years old.
     
    deadmail, May 1, 2004
  4. SP wrote
    I can remember reading, probably more cars than bikers but certainly
    that type of magazine, back to a time when wheels were a novel form of
    transport. The magaines fall into two styles and they haven't changed
    one little bit, not the teeniest weeniest, not since I were a spotty
    yoof.

    One type, the MCN type, looks respectable but other than 4 or 5 readers
    letters and the race reporting, is basically adverts and the other is
    the street fighter type full of mine with the nox on full boost does
    mach0.2. Sad innit?

    Bonus. Are you going?
     
    steve auvache, May 1, 2004
  5. wrote
    Bikes must be rare in your area then. The nearest thing I do to a
    commute these days is down to my community service and that is 7 mile
    journey from one side of the town to the other. I would expect to see
    at least that number of bikes and a couple of scoots.

    When I used to bang up and down to London there would have been many
    tens of bikes to be seen in any one day.

    As good a figure as any. Mind you it is horses for courses. A few
    brave souls do, do it but a commute up the A roads into Central London
    is no place for a 'wing or a Hyabusa any time of the year. Otoh it is a
    half decent all weather ride on a faired 600.
    Half our problem I would say. Varying degrees of personal experience to
    call upon as anecdotal evidence on which we base our ill informed
    opinions and **** all in the way of useful statistics to support the
    notion that the other bloke is a know nothing twat. I dunno what we do
    about it though.
     
    steve auvache, May 1, 2004
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    Gawnsoft Guest

    ....

    You put 'more than a third' in quotes, but it doesn't actually appear
    in my post.

    But, to confirm the accuracy of my numbers:

    An increase in speed of 33%, takes a speed from 1 up to 1.33.

    This would take the square of the square of the speed from 1 up to
    3.13

    3.13 is more than triple 1.

    Okay?




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    Euan
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    Gawnsoft, May 1, 2004
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    Gawnsoft Guest

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    joe parkin Guest

    Maybe it's just cos the paramedics in Merseyside like giving you the
    kiss of life ;-)
     
    joe parkin, May 1, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    Oh, deer.
     
    Pip, May 1, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    D'oh!
     
    Ben, May 2, 2004
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    MrBitsy Guest

    Which point would that be?
    :)

    MrBitsy
     
    MrBitsy, May 4, 2004
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    MrBitsy Guest

    Driving is a risk - it can never be 100% safe.

    However, in the scenario you talk about, I would do exactly as you
    described if I felt the driver at the junction had not given clear signs he
    had seen me.

    If the driver had stopped, and was looking in my direction then I would
    proceed. If the drivers did not look in my direction, seemed to have their
    attention inside the vehicle, then the only sensible action is to slow
    down, anticipating this driver moving out. A blast of your horn and/or a
    long headlight flash to warn of your presence.

    The headlight flash of course is only for those riders who are not
    travelling with their full beam on already. By their own stupidity, they
    are frustrating other drivers and have removed the possibility of a warning
    device.

    MrBitsy.
     
    MrBitsy, May 4, 2004
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    andrewr Guest

    Pretty much nothing is 100% safe. I caught a snippet on the radio over the
    weeked saying that, last year, there were 3,500 injuries caused by plant pots!
    The scenario I described was, obviously, far from serious; it was merely
    intended to illustrate the impracticality of the idea that you should _always_
    be able to stop before reaching any hazard.

    In general terms I do agree that I would slow down if I thought a driver hadn't
    seen me and was about to move into my path, but you couldn't do it for every
    single junction or hazard.
    Irrespective of the advice given in the Highway Code I would _never_ use a
    headlight flash to warn the driver of my presence in those circumstances, as it
    is far too easily misunderstood.

    Nobody should interpret it as an indication to pull out, but many will. It has
    been noted on here before that the graveyards are full of people who were in
    the right.
    You've really got a thing about this, haven't you?

    --
    AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas)
    Kawasaki ZX-6R J1
    BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL)
    BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, Keeper of the TFSTR#
    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    andrewr, May 4, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    A headlight flash is guaranteed to get someone driving out in front of
    you. I know that's not what the highway code says, but that's the
    accepted meaning on the road.
     
    Ben, May 4, 2004
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    darsy Guest

     
    darsy, May 4, 2004
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    mups Guest

    andrewr says...
    I read somewhere [1] that 12 people were injured one year by teacosies.
    Just how do you injure yourself with a teacosy?

    [1] New Scientist IIRC
     
    mups, May 4, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    IBMTWACIOF (I Broke My Toe With A Common Item Of Furniture). Very
    1999, mind you...
     
    darsy, May 4, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    choke hazard.
     
    darsy, May 4, 2004
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    mups Guest

    darsy says...
    Honest Doctor, I was just making a pot of tea in the nude when I
    slipped...
     
    mups, May 4, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

     
    Ginge, May 4, 2004
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