Car cop's lethal death toll -- The Welsh Traffic Talban speaks..

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Real Archibald, Apr 28, 2004.

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    Binary Era Guest

    I'm not sure you do. You seem to operating by conditioned reflex.

    Either that, or you're a failed Turing Machine.
     
    Binary Era, May 6, 2004
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    MrBitsy Guest

    wrote in
    I can imagine its very different to ride, but in my ability to tell if a
    bike is showing a dipped or high beam?

    MrBitsy.
     
    MrBitsy, May 6, 2004
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    Dan White Guest

    You're the advanced driver - you tell us.
     
    Dan White, May 6, 2004
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    Dan White Guest

    Utterly screwed it would seem.
     
    Dan White, May 6, 2004
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    Simon Hobson Guest

    They are checked, but of course with no 'gang' in the back to weight it down.
    FWIW, my Discovery failed it's MOT last year for having the lights too low !
    I keep them just a tad lower than most would to give a bit more margin before
    they dazzle anyone else - especially if I stuff a load in the back. So I
    would them up to keep the tester happy, then put them right again afterwards
    - where he insisted on was pretty well guaranteed to cause dazzle.

    Simon
     
    Simon Hobson, May 8, 2004
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    Simon Hobson Guest

    The military have (I believe) done quite a bit of research into camoflage,
    and in the right conditions, they've found that the best way to camoflage
    some things is to stick lots of lights on it !

    Simon
     
    Simon Hobson, May 8, 2004
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    Simon Hobson Guest

    I think that's about as fair as categorising all motorcycle riders as
    suicidal maniacs.

    I don't doubt that a proportion of those going to the IAM (and RoSPA by the
    way) are in it for the "I'm an advanced driver, so I'm PERFECT" feeling, but
    the majority do so because they want to be better drivers. Some may have
    problems (lack of skills etc), and I'm sure a great many go in thinking that
    they are perfect.

    I can tell you that after a short while with a skilful IAM observer will
    leave any 'perfect' driver with a different point of view - and they are most
    unlikely to pass the test. The AIM examiners are all police drivers, there's
    bugger all anyone can do that they havn't seen before, and if you ever think
    you've spotted every last sign, they WILL find one that you've missed :-(

    Yes both schemes have their faults, the biggest being that the candidates are
    self selected - many of the people with most to learn aren't likely to go to
    them. But they are trying to do something about the principal causes of
    accidents (and hence deaths & serious injuries) in what I consider to be the
    best way - improve the skills* of those using the roads (there's no camera at
    the side of the road that can do that).

    * I don't just mean vehicle control skills, they include observation,
    consideration/understanding of other road users and their needs, etc.


    The tone of your comment suggests that you have never tried it. I suggest you
    should. I suggest everyone should, and should try to persuade their friends
    to do likewise. I think the standard required for the IAM (or RoSPA) test
    should be the MINIMUM to go on the road, I also believe retesting would be
    good as well.

    Simon
     
    Simon Hobson, May 8, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Simon Hobson says...
    Why am I reminded of Quadrophenia?
     
    Lozzo, May 8, 2004
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