"capable of AT LEAST 100 kph" ????

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by markzoom, Oct 5, 2004.

  1. markzoom

    markzoom Guest

    WTF ???
    I have read the ambiguous DVLA blurb on the type of 125 needed for the
    test.
    There are a large number of 125s out there (most cruisers actually)
    whose specs distincly give their top speed as BELOW 63mph/100kph.
    To me that says you *CAN'T* take the "A" test on them and they are
    therefore not fully "learner legal" as wrongly specified.

    Am I right or wrong?

    Mark K.
     
    markzoom, Oct 5, 2004
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  2. markzoom

    Dynamic Guest


    Possibly, but legal for a learner to ride, and legal for a learner to take
    their test on are two different things.

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    Dynamic, Oct 5, 2004
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  3. You'd be right, but I bet the DVLA doesn't read the spec sheets of every
    125.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 5, 2004
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  4. markzoom

    serf Guest

    You are right.

    Just one more reason to get yourself a Nice Little CG125 (Makes
    Sign of Holy Pushrods).
     
    serf, Oct 5, 2004
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  5. markzoom

    Muck Guest

    <fx nods and MSOHP>
     
    Muck, Oct 5, 2004
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  6. markzoom

    markzoom Guest

    I think I'll post another thread and see if someone has a list of 125s
    which are specified as being officially capable of over 100kph.
    M.K.
     
    markzoom, Oct 6, 2004
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  7. markzoom

    WavyDavy Guest

    You are both...

    they are learner legal to ride on 'L' plates, but they're not legal to take
    a test (I don't remember what the names of em are now) that allows you to
    ride a bike over 125cc without 'L' plates after passing it....[1]


    Of course you are ignoring the bigger question:- How come there are 125s
    that can't do 63mph now, when they *all* bloody did (plus the 100s (ie, RXS,
    H100 etc)) in the bloody '80s......

    Dave

    [1] But they are legal to take a test that restricts you to 125s with no 'L'
    plates
     
    WavyDavy, Oct 6, 2004
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  8. You want a nice little CG125, you do.

    <Makes Sign of Holy Pushrods>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 6, 2004
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  9. I've owned an RXS100. It was faster than some 125s. And the little
    Kawasaki KH100EX was another cracking little bike. Bloody daft uncivil
    servants.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 6, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    My Yamaha DT100 was another.
     
    sweller, Oct 6, 2004
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    "markzoom" said
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    Donegal Paul, Oct 6, 2004
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  12. markzoom

    markzoom Guest

    Ah but the sensibly priced cg 125 copies (I gather they only cost US$s
    375 on the ship in Shanghai) are not officially able to do more than
    100kph. Is it just the sprocket because I gather the engines are the
    same? If it is, then I could just get a Honda sprocket and swap them.
    M.K.
     
    markzoom, Oct 6, 2004
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  13. markzoom

    markzoom Guest

    My theory is that they are mostly for the Asian market where they
    regularly carry two people on crap roads, so they use slower gearing.
    The "cruiser replica" 125s are probably too heavy for faster speeds on
    a 125 engine too.
    M.K.

     
    markzoom, Oct 6, 2004
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  14. Oh, yeah, a mate had one of them. Lovely little things. Shame there was
    no rev counter, mind.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 6, 2004
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  15. I think they're genuinely in a softer state of tune (if that's
    possible), actually.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 6, 2004
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    serf Guest

    If you want CG125 to learn on, you have a choice between:

    Buying the genuine article secondhand, using it for 6 months to
    pass your test, and then (if you have bought according to the
    TOG pricing method), selling it on for what you paid for it. Or
    more. £600 should fetch you a good condition example with around
    15-25,000 on the clock. There is a high demand for this bike to
    learn on, and used examples hold their value very well.

    Or buying new, and losing out on the depreciation. The Hongdu
    copies suffer from dreadful build quality, and appear to be very
    difficult to sell.

    The CG125 is such a fundamentally reliable bike that it would a
    mug's game to buy a new one just to pass the test.
     
    serf, Oct 7, 2004
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  17. markzoom

    markzoom Guest

    To practice AND take test on.
    Yes the genuine Honda CG does seem the popular option. They are damn fugly though...
    Thanks for the advice, I need to do some pondering.
    M.K.
     
    markzoom, Oct 8, 2004
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    Verdigris Guest

    On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 18:02:55 +0000, markzoom wrote:

    Suzuki GS125 is superior. The sheep round here have just bought into the
    whole CG mystique.
     
    Verdigris, Oct 8, 2004
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  19. markzoom

    markzoom Guest

    Yes, I certainly prefer the cruisery style bikes. Thanks!
    M.K.
     
    markzoom, Oct 9, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    The GS125 isn't a cruiser.
     
    Muck, Oct 9, 2004
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