Can I build a nice Harley Kit Bike for about $13,000?

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by The Mole, Jan 13, 2005.

  1. The Mole

    Odinn Guest

    Odinn, Jan 23, 2005
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    ZombyWoof Guest

    No shit, I bet you could blow 13k on one part, let alone a whole bike.
     
    ZombyWoof, Jan 23, 2005
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    Julie Ruin Guest

    I think the mole lied to us as there has been no replies from him. Or
    perhaps his 10 years turned to 10 days.

    -julie
     
    Julie Ruin, Jan 26, 2005
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    tmoe_awppw Guest

    Bob La Londe is right I have 43000 miles on my 98 electroglide it is as
    comfortable as my couch at home only my wife cant bitch at me I paid
    $11500 for mine and it was the best investment I ever made.
     
    tmoe_awppw, Jan 27, 2005
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    Vito Guest

    Add me to the list. I have close to 200,000 (that's right) miles on my 90
    FLHTC, 50,000 the first year! It was 100% trouble free for 90,000 then it
    cracked a valve guide in 120 degree heat while stuck in traffic in Laughlin
    Nv. HD fixed that under the warranty then replaced the cases (with all
    bearings) then o'hauled the tranny to replace a spring (this time I paid for
    bearings, etc but they covered labor) so I got essentially a new motor and
    tranny at 90,000 for the cost of a few parts. I got nervous and replaced
    the belt and sprockets at 145,000 - didn't need to but they were getting
    old. Bike has been coast to coast 9 times via different routes and in every
    state but Maine and Washington and I hope to fix that when I retire.

    If you can't afford new buy a well cared for FLH a few years old. AFAIK
    they're bulletproof. I paid $10,000 for mine, have had 15 years of good use
    from her and she still runs like new. Can't beat that with a stick!
     
    Vito, Jan 27, 2005
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    Odinn Guest

    Sheesh, what's with all the damn top posting?

    My '03 ElectraGlide Standard has 53,000 miles on it, not one problem
    with it. It's a daily rider (80 miles a day). I do need a new battery
    for it now (I ran it down a few too many times listening to the stereo).

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    '03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
    '97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic
    Atlanta Biker Net ... http://www.atlantabiker.net
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    Odinn, Jan 27, 2005
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    Bob La Londe Guest

    An FLHT(X) won't do a 108 MPH much less uphill without some serious mods.
    MIne FLHT bearly ran in the mid 90s. After a cam, pipes, and carb work it
    would still only labor upto to the 100 mark. On the other hand it would
    haul me a passnger, and a 300+ loaded trailer at 80+ all day long without
    breaking a sweat.
     
    Bob La Londe, Jan 30, 2005
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    Tud Guest

    roach wrote...
    Yep, but you left the fully loaded part out (I assume it was the bike).
     
    Tud, Jan 30, 2005
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    Odinn Guest

    Funny, my FLHTI will do 100+ stock with no problems. Besides, you
    totally missed the point of Roach's post.

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    Odinn

    '03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
    '97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic
    Atlanta Biker Net ... http://www.atlantabiker.net
    Vulcan Riders Assoc . http://www.vulcanriders.org

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    Odinn, Jan 31, 2005
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    Tony D Guest

    The last time I rode an FLHT, up hill, at 108 I ended up with a tank slapper
    (bwahahahaaaa)!

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    Tony D, Jan 31, 2005
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    Odinn Guest

    Okay Tony, you've got me confused, you replied to my message, dropped my
    reply. Do you have Bob kf'd and are replying to him thru my message?

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    Odinn

    '03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
    '97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic
    Atlanta Biker Net ... http://www.atlantabiker.net
    Vulcan Riders Assoc . http://www.vulcanriders.org

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    Odinn, Jan 31, 2005
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    Vito Guest

    Sorry Roach but when I wanna go fast I reach for rice. HDs are for enjoying
    the scenery in comfort. Why spend $20G on a good bike then another pile
    screwing it up to go 108 MPH when you can buy rice that'll do 200 out of the
    box?
     
    Vito, Jan 31, 2005
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  13. 'cuz any dickhead can buy an off the showroom floor taco bike and go 180 mph.
    Doesn't mean shit to do that. You're just a passenger anyway. Might as
    well brag about how fast the last airliner you rode in was.

    But on the other hand, to take an archaic, outmoded machine with strange
    handling, no power to speak of and work on it, redesign it, modify it to fit
    your own image of what it could have been, to take it down to individual
    nuts, bolts, and bits and tweak every single one of them, put it back
    together and run that sumbitch 120mph through the twisties knowing that if
    you did any small thing wrong they're going to scrape your macerated ass off
    the pavement and sell it to McDonald's for burger meat, to do that and get
    away with it means something. It's like walking up to the devil himself,
    tweaking his nose, turning and walking slowly away without ever once looking
    back.

    That's the only reason I **** with Harleys and have for coming up on 40
    years.

    Spunky's Two Truths About Harleys:

    All Harleys, no matter what their state of repair, no matter what their state
    of modification, are merely starter kits for the realization of somebody's
    dream.

    Any chimp can ride a modern superbike fast. But to take a badly suspended,
    undertired, oversprung, poorly balanced behemoth and ride the same road at
    high speed takes a Rider.

    I'm sorry that you don't get it, Vito, but on the chance that you just never
    had it explained properly, I'm offering this.
     
    Spunky the Tuna, Jan 31, 2005
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  14. "Spunky the Tuna"

    SNIP
    You can say the same about a REAL Gold Wing...GL1000
    Again with the Gold Wing references. Grante I can increase
    the power signifigantly with abolt on part and save more
    money than doing the same on a Harley. As for the
    suspension...30 minutes to drop in a set of springs and the
    handling is as good as it can get with out a compleate
    transplant for the front end.
    Explain what? That you'd have to spend the price of a
    sportster to increase performance (that's just the engine
    mods) and still not handle as well at speed? Don't get me
    wrong Harley is nice for what it is. But when you want
    performance NOW... You buy something already built. Then
    again Buell already does this with a Harley...first thing
    they do is throw the frame away. Now all they have to do is
    make a smaller transmission/clutch that still handles the
    torque.
     
    Keith Schiffner, Jan 31, 2005
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    Tud Guest

    Keith Schiffner wrote...
    Maybe you could talk Sunpky into getting a Goldwing, but I doubt it, he's a
    pretty closed minded fucker.
     
    Tud, Jan 31, 2005
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  16. "Tud"
    SNIP

    I don't know. It's a REAL challenge as there are more "Hop
    up" parts out there for just about EVERY Harley built. The
    ONLY hop up part that does this for the GL1000 is a
    supercharger that takes the better part of a day to install.
    There WERE some hotter cams being made at one time, not sure
    if they are still made. That and swapping out carbs from
    GL1100 are about it for doing anything to the motor except
    for setting it up differently. The single carb mod doesn't
    really make it faster and has some issues with a slower warm
    up.

    Definitely a challenge to hop up as there isn't anything
    MADE for it. If you do anything it has to all be one off
    items...as for improving handling...the options are VERY
    limited. Oh and YES AAMOF a GL1000 can corner with sport
    bikes to a point BTDT...biggest problem is those damn valve
    cover bolts are getting hard to find so I don't lean it all
    the way over.
     
    Keith Schiffner, Jan 31, 2005
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    Tud Guest

    Reassembler wrote...
    We don't all love the thrill of driving to the grocery store in our SUV's.
    You've obviously never done anything more to your bike than change the
    fluids. A great deal of enjoyment and pride can be had out of working on
    your bike. I get on my stock bike and I know I have a reliable ride under
    me and it's a joy to drive. I get on my chopper that's been completely torn
    apart and rebult by *me*, a less that half assed hack, and I'l grittin' my
    teeth and praying the front wheel doesn't come off for at least the first
    half hour, and I love it.
     
    Tud, Jan 31, 2005
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  18. Seems to be one of those binary schism deals. Divides the world into two
    groups. Those who get it/those who don't.

    You obviously get it. I knew that all along. The other guy doesn't. No
    surprise there, either.

    The upside is that the ones who don't get it sooner or later create more
    cheap used parts for the ones who get it to mess with.

    Everybody wins.
     
    Spunky the Tuna, Jan 31, 2005
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    Vito Guest

    mph. <snip>

    Different strokes for different folks. Any dickhead can take an engine
    designed to make 70 hp and get twice that and more by bolting on aftermarket
    accessories, but only at the cost of reliability, smoothness and lots of
    money. Still, if that's your thing go for it - just don't knock others who
    think, but don't say, it's idiotic. Same goes for riding 108mph on most
    roads I travel. Once you've been really fast, cornered with both tires
    sliding lap after lap, going "fast" on the street just don't cut it.

    My 1990 FLH was my 12th HD and I have had several more in addition since but
    if I wanted to win a road race I'd reach for a TZ250 Yamaha cuz there is
    nothing you can do to a HD, or any street bike for that matter, that'll make
    it keep up with even a little 250cc race bike. Similarly, if I wanted to go
    coast to coast and back again as fast as possible I'd buy an new Ducati or
    BMW because designing and adding a fairing and luggage to a VRSC wont get
    it. But I don't do any of these things any more. I want a bike that will
    carry me anywhere a road goes, that I can do up to 1000 miles a day on and
    be rested enough to pleasure a pretty local gal when I stop. My FLH does
    that fine with just a cam and pipes, and lets me enjoy the scenery and
    scents along the way. You'll understand someday.
     
    Vito, Jan 31, 2005
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    Vito Guest

    Didn't somebody make a Roots (GMC) type blower for the GL1000 that made
    200HP?
     
    Vito, Jan 31, 2005
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