snip> [QUOTE] And, if you do need to buy a tent, it pays for itself very quickly.[/QUOTE] Unless you wreck it in heavy snow. I abandoned a tent at this years Elefant after a couple of poles ended up being bent by the weight of snow that fell on it. I'd have been ok if I'd bothered to clear an area around it where the snow could slide off to when I banged the inside of the tent but the urge to drink beer was too great.