California motorcycle driving test question (behind the wheel)

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Madhu, May 17, 2006.

  1. Madhu

    Madhu Guest

    Dennis , Mike, Barbz, Tom and everyone else who shared your DMV test
    experience.
    Barb, thanks for your offer to help. Appreciate it.

    I took my 'behind the wheel' test this afternoon at Clairemont, SD
    (San Diego, not Dakota for the ignorant ;) and passed it!
    I practiced the circle on Sun evening at the same DMV. I couldn't do
    more than a quarter to a semi circle to start. The 'turn the head 90
    degrees' method was effective but I wasn't comfortable doing it for
    more than 3/4 the circle.
    So I used the caveat you guys mentioned "Look where you want to go" and
    modified it a little bit. I looked roughly 7-10 feet ahead in the
    circle , looking at the circle a series of small "geometric chords".
    This worked better for me and in an hour I had it down. Repeated the
    circle practice till I could do it like 9 in 10 times.
    Kawasaki Ninja 250R. 2nd gear, started off trying pure rear brake
    control with the throttle fixed at a certain level. You then
    automatically start using a little bit of the clutch and throttle to
    make adjustments as you get comfortable staying in the circle.

    Felt great to pass it in my first attempt.

    1. first part was the 'slalom' - there are a total of 8 cones or so
    spaced around 8-9 feet from one another. These cones are in a straight
    line leading up to the circle part of the lollipop - it is a 10ft
    radius circle. It has a concentric corcle with a radius of aroun 12 ft.
    The circumference of the circles are each painted 1 ft thick.
    You can let the front wheel wander onto the lines.
    They specifically say that they don't care about the rear wheel.

    I had to swing between the 8 cones
    - and just as I went past the last cone,
    -had to enter the circle in the clockwise direction, do 2 circles, then

    -exit the circle
    -weave between the cones and get back to the starting point.

    Just as I was finishing my second circle and getting back to the first
    cone, I didn't have enough speed on the bike and had to swing wide to
    accelerate.
    She asked me what went wrong and I told her "I was too anxious to get
    out of the circle, I forgot everything else". She smiled and let me
    redo the exercise. I got it done right.

    2. This was again a circle exercise. This time , I had to ride between
    two lines towards the circle,
    -do two anti-clockwise circles,
    -exit the circle through another pair of lines - these are parallel to
    the first set of lines I mentioned at the start of the exercise.
    Something like this:
    ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
    ' '
    ' '
    ' '
    ' '
    ' '
    ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
    || x ||
    || x ||
    || x ||
    || x ||
    || x ||
    Lines A Lines B

    So you ride between the B lines, enter the circle (that ugly thing I've
    drawn is supposed to be a circle), go around it twice, exit through the
    A lines, ride all the way down.

    The x's above are the cones I mentioned in point 1. You weave between
    them and enter the circle in point 1.

    3. Checking gear shifting:
    Ride out of the DMV, turn from Balboa into Derrick drive, left turn at
    the light into Genesee Ave, do a U-Turn at the first light you see,
    return to the testing spot.

    Thats it! So I saved myself the $235 I wanted to. YESSS!

    It would be a good idea to get to the DMV a half hr ahead of test time
    to practice the circle 3-4 times and get back your groove. Stay loose -
    thats the key.

    Madhu
     
    Madhu, May 23, 2006
    #61
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  2. Madhu

    Madhu Guest

    Dennis , Mike, Barbz, Tom and everyone else who shared your DMV test
    experience - Thanks a lot! Really appreciate your advice.

    Barb, thanks for your offer to help. Appreciate it.

    I took my 'behind the wheel' test this afternoon at Clairemont, SD
    (San Diego, not Dakota for the ignorant ;) and passed it!
    I practiced the circle on Sun evening at the same DMV. I couldn't do
    more than a quarter to a semi circle to start. The 'turn the head 90
    degrees' method was effective but I wasn't comfortable doing it for
    more than 3/4 the circle.
    So I used the caveat you guys mentioned "Look where you want to go" and
    modified it a little bit. I looked roughly 7-10 feet ahead in the
    circle , looking at the circle a series of small "geometric chords".
    This worked better for me and in an hour I had it down. Repeated the
    circle practice till I could do it like 9 in 10 times.
    Kawasaki Ninja 250R. 2nd gear, started off trying pure rear brake
    control with the throttle fixed at a certain level. You then
    automatically start using a little bit of the clutch and throttle to
    make adjustments as you get comfortable staying in the circle.

    Felt great to pass it in my first attempt.

    1. first part was the 'slalom' - there are a total of 8 cones or so
    spaced around 8-9 feet from one another. These cones are in a straight
    line leading up to the circle part of the lollipop - it is a 10ft
    radius circle. It has a concentric corcle with a radius of aroun 12 ft.
    The circumference of the circles are each painted 1 ft thick.
    You can let the front wheel wander onto the lines.
    They specifically say that they don't care about the rear wheel.

    I had to swing between the 8 cones
    - and just as I went past the last cone,
    -had to enter the circle in the clockwise direction, do 2 circles, then

    -exit the circle
    -weave between the cones and get back to the starting point.

    Just as I was finishing my second circle and getting back to the first
    cone, I didn't have enough speed on the bike and had to swing wide to
    accelerate.
    She asked me what went wrong and I told her "I was too anxious to get
    out of the circle, I forgot everything else". She smiled and let me
    redo the exercise. I got it done right.

    2. This was again a circle exercise. This time , I had to ride between
    two lines towards the circle,
    -do two anti-clockwise circles,
    -exit the circle through another pair of lines - these are parallel to
    the first set of lines I mentioned at the start of the exercise.
    Something like this:
    ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
    ' '
    ' '
    ' '
    ' '
    ' '
    ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
    || x ||
    || x ||
    || x ||
    || x ||
    || x ||
    Lines A Lines B

    So you ride between the B lines, enter the circle (that ugly thing I've
    drawn is supposed to be a circle), go around it twice, exit through the
    A lines, ride all the way down.

    The x's above are the cones I mentioned in point 1. You weave between
    them and enter the circle in point 1.

    3. Checking gear shifting:
    Ride out of the DMV, turn from Balboa into Derrick drive, left turn at
    the light into Genesee Ave, do a U-Turn at the first light you see,
    return to the testing spot.

    Thats it! So I saved myself the $235 I wanted to. YESSS!

    It would be a good idea to get to the DMV a half hr ahead of test time
    to practice the circle 3-4 times and get back your groove. Stay loose -
    thats the key.

    Madhu
     
    Madhu, May 23, 2006
    #62
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  3. Madhu

    Madhu Guest

    OK. Now start saving your pennies to spend on rider education.

    Yes Sir!

    btw, the lady who was doing my test was one by name Monica. She's
    really friendly and cool. very unlike DMV officers I've seen elsewhere
    - they act like their mission is to make you feel miserable.
    This was a refreshing change.
     
    Madhu, May 23, 2006
    #63
  4. Madhu

    Madhu Guest

    OK. Now start saving your pennies to spend on rider education.

    Yes Sir!
    I live on my scholarship money and I live purely on my funds. Hence the
    penny pinching :)

    btw, the lady who was doing my test was one by name Monica. She's
    really friendly and cool. very unlike DMV officers I've seen elsewhere
    - they act like their mission is to make you feel miserable.
    This was a refreshing change.
     
    Madhu, May 23, 2006
    #64
  5. Wouldn't be useful at my DMV... If they're running motorcycle exams
    that day, they're likely packed all day.

    When I came in (with my course certificate) there were two "speed"
    bikes, and a Harley there for testing (and a Harley rider with a very
    dejected look on his face slinking out of the test zone)

    And the facility, I think, is chained off on weekends.
    --
    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG

    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
    (Bestiaria Support Staff: )
    HTTP://www.bestiaria.com/
     
    Dennis Lee Bieber, May 23, 2006
    #65
  6. You mean there's another DMV office besides the one in Concord (Calif)
    that's across the street from Home Depot? What an odd coincidence!
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 23, 2006
    #66
  7. I wouldn't necessarily call it saving $235 but more like not having to
    spend it, because you didn't get the education that the $235 would give
    you, but whatever. If you are a totally inexperienced motorcycle rider,
    perhaps you were a tad penny-wise and pound-foolish not to take the
    course these days. Anyway, the course is still well worth your while,
    because if you take and pass it, you will probably get a discount on
    your motorcycle insurance.
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 23, 2006
    #67
  8. Who's paying for your motorcycle insurance? If it's someone else, might
    they be persuaded to foot the bill for your MSF course so that it will
    lower your insurance costs?
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 23, 2006
    #68
  9. Madhu

    Android Cat Guest

    Android Cat, May 23, 2006
    #69
  10. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Congratulations!
    If you ever find yourself in a position where you can afford the
    Motorcycle safety Class, I'd recommend it for your own good.
    The highways aren't getting any safer!

    --
    --
    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 23, 2006
    #70
  11. Madhu

    Ben Guest

    $80 for my first helmet, $270 for the KBC.
    $180 for the jacket, about to spend $300 for kevlar.
    $30 for the gloves, $50 for armored ones.

    I'm a college student, too - but I want to live long enough to
    graduate. Hundreds now < thousands later to put me in a pineboard bed.
    Taking the MSF course this summer, before I get on roads with speeds
    in excess of 35 mph. Heck, they even offer one every other month that
    uses scooters instead of Ninja 250s - guess where I'll be?

    - Ben
     
    Ben, May 27, 2006
    #71
  12. Madhu

    Thumper Guest

    I'm 51 years old, long removed from a college I never went to.
    $15 for the tank top, $5 for the flip flops, $25 for the shorts, $150 for
    the Oakley's, and $10.000 for the GSX1300R. Oh, and $587 for the Shoei X11
    helmet (fuckin helmet law).

    Thumper
     
    Thumper, May 27, 2006
    #72
  13. Madhu

    pieface Guest

    No common sense then? Heh.
     
    pieface, May 27, 2006
    #73
  14. They're very special kevlar riding shorts.
     
    Michael R. Kesti, May 27, 2006
    #74
  15. 54 years old here. Vanson racing leathers $400 (25 years ago), 30 year
    old army boots, gift from Uncle Sam. $30 for gloves, $110 for Snell
    approved HJC helmet, BMW vintage racing hack $2000. I own the thing,
    so I get to choose the driver. I have more fun scrambling around on it
    at speed :)

    Here are a few pics from last weekend.

    http://tinyurl.com/ons65

    The leathers have needed a few touch ups over the years, as can be seen
    by the different shades of red.

    http://tinyurl.com/p9zyy

    This driver did pretty good for his first time ever driving a hack.
    Note the back end kicked out under power.

    http://tinyurl.com/o9nq4

    Best part is you don't have to worry about falling down ;)

    Bruce
     
    Bruce Richmond, May 28, 2006
    #75
  16. Madhu

    pieface Guest

    I've heard that before. Actually, I think you can be to smart to
    function in daily life. Are you like that? You would have to write
    many diffent "slangs" to be able for the people in this country to
    "understand you." Can you do that?
     
    pieface, May 28, 2006
    #76
  17. *chuckle* That reminds me of another quote, which -- absolutely
    sincerely -- I am not directing at anybody in particular:

    "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters
    will eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the
    Internet, we know this is not true."
    -- Prof. Robert Wilensky, UC Berkeley
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 28, 2006
    #77
  18. Madhu

    Madhu Guest

    VEHICLE SHIPPING HELP:

    Hi,

    I need to ship my bike to Dallas , Texas from San Diego, CA . I'm
    totally in the dark about the options available to me. U-Haul requires
    you to have a car to which they permanently weld a hitch and their
    quote is around $400. Driving from San Diego to Dallas would be super
    painful.

    Do any of you know of other ways of shipping motocycles ? Any
    help/suggestions would be much appreciated.

    Thank you
    Madhu
     
    Madhu, May 28, 2006
    #78
  19. Madhu

    Paladin Guest

    You get on the bike, ride to Dallas, park it, grab a taxi to the
    airport and fly back. 24 hours ride time. Sounds like fun to me.
     
    Paladin, May 28, 2006
    #79
  20. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Let's see...you want to live long enough to graduate? I'd guess the
    motorcycle course rather than the one that teaches you how to ride those
    motorized roller skates.

    --
    --
    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 29, 2006
    #80
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