Caged Needle Bearing and Axle Care...

OK... because the RC30 / RC45 / VFR employ the same caged needle bearing
on the rear wheel... here's my patented method to clean both the axle
and bearing...

Once you have the bearing removed you employ a two jewelers screw
drivers and carefully lift each roller from the cage...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/RC45NeedleBearingDisassembly.JPG


Give the rollers and cage a bath in gasoline... you be surprised at
all the dirty deposits hidden in the old grease and every nook and
cranny... ka ka poo... look at all my deposits after only 10K miles of
normal operation...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/RC45AxleBearingDeposits.JPG


Once the bearing are really clean lay them out and inspect each roller
for scoring...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/RC45NeedleBearing.JPG


Dirty will leave a trail of deposits on the axle at point B...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/RC45AxleBefore.JPG


Spun in a Lathe... it's easy to remove the deposits employing a gray
micro fine 3m pad... it's soft enough that it does *not* remove any
precious metal...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/RC45AxleDuring.JPG


Mercy... you don't have a Lathe??? well you can gain the same effect
by inserting the axle in the sprocket side bearings and spinning it
with a drill and again employing a gray mirco fine 3M pad...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/RC45AxleDrillSpin.JPG


At any rate... you'll end up with the axle deposits remove plus giving
the metal a nice luster...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/RC45AxleAfter.JPG


With the bearing cleaned and axle shinning you're ready for grease...
Questions???

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
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Have you ever thought maybe you need to get a life? <g>

BTW, I just looked up "obsessive/compulsive" in the dictionary, that's
a pretty good picture of you.... ;-)

 

Yeah, are you on drugs?

I find it astonishing that an educated worldly person such as yourself
would use gasoline for a solvent. That you would recommend it to
others borders on criminal.

**WARNING**

Never, and I mean *NEVER*, use gasoline as a solvent. It is EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS and using it is like playing Russion roulette. Besides,
it's totally unnecessary. Go down and purchase some regular parts
cleaning solvent. Also, get some protective gloves or protective hand
cream as the solvent is very harsh and will chemically burn your skin
with prolonged use. Despite this minor shortcoming, it's still better
than using gasoline.

nb

 

Well given a choice I'd still rather work on Mr.RC... you know it actually feels
like therapy in this crazy world...

I think Mary would agree...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

Nope... you can handle gasoline safely with gloves... I know the pics don't show
it Bob but I never work without by blue gloves... I buy them by the thousands so
I can treat everyone at the Busy Little Shop...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

Hint: Sonic cleaners aren't that expensive and they'll clean a bearing
cleaner than just about anything w/o disassembly. You can also do
something else while the bearing is being cleaned.

 

Nonsense, always use gasoline, it works great! Have a cigar while
cleaning, the results can be very exciting....... <G>

 

You're joking, right?

I'm not talking about what gasoline does to your hands. I'm talking
about the fire/explosion hazard. Using gasoline for anything in an
enclosed space is like juggling dynamite, ....real stupid!

whatever, Larry ....Darwin Awards are available to anyone.

nb

 

Actually, I find the best way to use gasoline as a cleaner is to pour
some into an old windex bottle and spray away to your hearts content.
Gasoline in a spray bottle is the best for all your cleaning needs.

I also find that Propane is an acceptable replacement for R-12 refrigerant.

Flip-flops and a thong are also proper riding gear so long as your road
speed isn't over 100 mph.

--

R.W.G.

2001 Triumph Sprint RS - R.I.P. ( resting in pieces)
"love the bike, hate the dealer"


Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
--Oscar Wilde

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
--Douglas Adams

 

Some people can work on bikes and some people can peck on a keyboard.
Homeboy LXL can read the mike and machine the parts, and post pics. Whether
he bathes in gasoline or WD40, the ng's are much richer for his hobbies.

Thanks Larry for being a technologically and mechanically aware being who
shares his stock-sucks compulsions on the net. We are the better for it,
and lucky that you have not channeled that machining energy towards lobbying
politicians into outlawing ratbikes with duct-strap-hung exhausts or
GSXR-750's with topboxes.

Many people are unaware or unmindful of the absolute need to correct the
power-to-weight ratio on two-wheeled recreational vehicles due to the
engineering intrusions of the manufacturers marketing and liability
departments, not to mention what the EPA, DMV, and State of California
mandate. Just lock me in a room with an R1, a dremel, and a comprehensive
aftermarket catalog........

 

Nope... I'm serious... the Busy Little Shop is a spacious 3 car garage... plenty
of space for fumes and a couple of big doors for ventilation... besides my Honda
shop manual warns that if you use gasoline it is extremely explosive and to use
caution...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

Thanks Alex... btw have we every met before???

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

these same warnings go for most good parts "cleaners" (solvents) that you
suggested....what is the point?

 

Most petroleum solvents are better than gasoline for a number of reasons,
only one of which is a much higher flashpoint. "As flammable" is relatively
meaningless, there are numerous properties which are relevant to the
combustion danger of a petrochemical.

I think I agree with the original point -- I'd probably trust Larry
with *any* chemical, but would like him to be cautious about his
recommendations to others.

Again, you're wide of the mark. You have to die to earn a Darwin Award,
and not kill anyone else at the same time, and your demise must be
fairly original -- copycat stupidity doesn't earn an award.

 

Uhmmm.... no, I did not. If you had actually read what I wrote, you
would see I specifically indicated "nonflammable". I was thinking of
the solvent used in most auto/bike shops in their parts cleaners.
I've used it for years. You can too. It's available in most auto
parts stores.

The problem with gasoline is not that it's flammable. As you
correctly point out, many things are, including mom's hairspray. But,
I take issue with gasoline. Why, because it's so damn dangerous. It's
not just flammable, it's EXPLOSIVE ...as in reduce your worldly form
into ashtray filler or equally distribute your garage/home to all your
neighbors.

I hate to preach, but as an ex-fireman, I can't help it. The
following, in part, from the Burn Prevention Foundation:


"In spite of the routine use of gasoline, many people are unaware of or
simply don't appreciate the dangers of gasoline. Gasoline is dangerous
because it is highly volatile - the fumes are capable of ignition up
to 12 feet away from a pooled source. The danger is further multiplied
by its explosive nature. Flammables burn at close to room temperature
when they are near a spark, flame, or even static electricity. It can
float on water and may spread long distances, making ignition and
flash back possible. Gasoline vapor is highly explosive and may ignite
as a "fireball" with a temperature of 15,000 degrees F. The same
qualities that make gasoline so valuable as a fuel can cause terrible
injuries when it is handled carelessly or used in a manner for which
it wasn't intended.

Appropriate vs. Inappropriate Uses of Gasoline:
If you remember at least two rules regarding gasoline, remember these:
1) Gasoline has only one function: to fuel an engine; 2) Gasoline
should never be used or stored indoors or in close proximity to
sources of heat or flame. Gasoline should only be used for its
intended purpose and should never be used as:
# A solvent
# A cleaning solution
# An accelerant
# An insecticide
# A weed killer
# A weapon
# A fuel in devices designed for other fuels, such as kerosene"


Anyone using gasoline for anything other than putting in a gasoline
engine is playing with their life. If that's what you want to do,
fine by me. As much as I enjoy Larry's contributions, I won't be
stopping by The Little Shop anytime soon. Mama notbob didn't raise no
fools.

nb

 

Get yourself a Scott airpack or a rebreather. Granted, you'd look
silly as Hell and it would be a major PIA, but hey, you asked.

nb

 

if i missed the "non-flamable" part i am sorry Bob...notbob...whatever....i
do not remember the non-flamable part...

i have many different "cleaners" in my "shop".....only one is not
flamable...and as with most flammable products using them in the wrong space
can make them explosive...one of my favorites is laquer thinner, and
MEK....good stuff...dangerous, but good...

 

Thanks for finally putting things in perspective... I like this better than your
first overheated apocalyptic statement...

As much as I enjoy Larry's contributions, I won't be

My parents didn't raise a fool either notbob... I guarantee you'll be safe in
the Busy Little Shop... we can either probe our collective knowledge how to make
gas explode or how to use gas in a shop and keep it from exploding... we have a
choice... oh yea we amuse our selves by burning magnesium in a pumpkin too...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/AddWaterToMagnesium.JPG

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

I live in an enlightened state that forces vapor recovery at the pump.
Cleaning parts with gasoline would probably expose you to a year or
more worth of carcinogenic crap obtained via the riding route.

 

. oh yea we amuse our selves by burning magnesium in a pumpkin too...http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/AddWaterToMagnesium.JPG


you should see the pretty bright light coming from the bonfire if i toss an
old aircooled vw's engine case into the coals....whew....