well, the kids (EOB) have started again. It was nice, fun, and intelligent in here for a while; but here they go again. I've seen at least one new person in here lately that I'm sorry I won't get to know better. That would be BJ. You're an intriguing (sp?) guy BJ and I like your writing style. I think you're sharp enough to separate the wheat from the chaf you're about to witness in this ng showing up in the "Founded this Tx.Group" thread. As for myself, I choose to turn my back on the children and leave this crap for a year or so. I'm truely tired of their sniviling boring childish behavior. Yea I know, don't open the thread... well they're like a nasty infection that turns up just everywhere. I'm just plain leaving. See ya'll on the road sometime, Mike Alvey