Bye Bye Donald

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Paul Corfield, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. Paul Corfield

    platypus Guest

    Appears sound, though:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
     
    platypus, Nov 8, 2006
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  2. Oh, cheer me up, why don't you. Him and Osborne. The braying chinless wonder
    old Etonians, who have no clue what the real world is, or the issues that
    face Fred in the street. Hell's teeth, with all the talent that surely
    exists, can't someone find a decent leader of a political party? Damnit, I
    liked Charlie Kennedy, and I don't care what he was drinking. I can believe
    what was said about David Puttnam praising back bench ordinary MPs, but why
    do the decent ones never rise to the surface? Or, if they do, they seem to
    die off, or disappear. I really am begining to believe in the inverse square
    law of the higher you get.... well, fill in the gaps.

    (My local councillor is a good bloke, who does a lot locally and responds
    well.)

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Nov 8, 2006
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  3. Hey, he's alright. Rather more of a democratic socialist, as the article
    says, than the unreconstructed type, not that I mind those latter. The
    articles he's written are excellent. Can I vote for him?

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Nov 8, 2006
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  4. You didn't.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 8, 2006
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  5. Paul Corfield

    muddy cat Guest

    I quite agree, but there appears there is nothing else that can be done
    to him.
     
    muddy cat, Nov 8, 2006
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  6. Paul Corfield

    platypus Guest

    You don't need to. But we do need someone nearer home who's worth voting
    for.
     
    platypus, Nov 9, 2006
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  7. Paul Corfield

    platypus Guest

    Just take away everything that matters to him, bit by bit, until there's
    nothing left.
     
    platypus, Nov 9, 2006
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  8. Paul Corfield wrote
    Has he ****, the republicans have all ready come out rubbing their hands
    in ill disguised glee saying they have just got gifted two whole years
    of blaming the democrats for the throwback's inability to govern ahead
    of them. Cock-a-hoop they are.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 9, 2006
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  9. Paul Corfield

    Charlie Guest

    Well, back in the summer they were speculating/fantasising about the [then
    wholly unrealistic] prospect of winning control of both houses, which would
    enable them to impeach him. Let's face it, taking a country to war on a
    heady mixture of knowingly bogus intelligence and blatant lies to the
    electorate, blowing away $X00bn and 2,800+ US lives [to say nothing of the
    chillingly casual imprecision of 50->600,000 Iraqi lives lost], destroying
    the entire infrastructure of a working [although admittedly corrupt and
    tyrannically administered] nation-state, bombing every ministry except the
    energy ministry and parcelling out $Xbn of reconstruction goodies to your
    friends is everso slightly more a gross abuse of executive power than simply
    blagging the occasional blow-job from a political groupie.

    I reckon the Democrats will probably keep this threat in their pocket, for
    the time being, as a way of keeping Bush and the Republicans on a very short
    chain. Impeachment risks being seen as cheap revenge, and an absence of
    dignified statesmanship, and would risk a backlash from the knuckle-draggers
    in the 2008 elections. Probably better to pay the long game. Already Bush
    has a startled, frightened, haunted look about him, and it's only going to
    keep on getting worse for him. His stooges have undoubtedly been telling
    him for weeks that it'll be alright on the night. Ha.
     
    Charlie, Nov 9, 2006
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  10. Paul Corfield

    ogden Guest

    There is, however, a Speaker of the House, soon to be Nancy Pelosi. If
    third in line to the presidency doesn't roughly equate to a leader of
    the opposition, I'm not sure what does.
     
    ogden, Nov 9, 2006
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  11. Which lead to a classic Bushism on the C4 news last night:

    "I thought that we were going to be OK. Shows what I know eh?"

    Indeed. I couldn't have put it any better myself. If he is so
    appallingly ignorant about his chosen field of expertise (politics)
    what does that mean for his other fields of knowledge?

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 9, 2006
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  12. Yabbut, you don't get to vote for her (necessarily) as the next POTUS, do
    you.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Nov 9, 2006
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  13. Paul Corfield

    Hog Guest

    Excuse me can we just pause and consider the last Pres. A Democrat. He
    did absolutely nothing worth talking about and a bit of harm along the
    way. I think he was a de-facto criminal too.
    The situation now is in check and balance. Both parties need to work and
    co-operate and find concensus, that seems to be as it should be.
     
    Hog, Nov 9, 2006
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  14. Paul Corfield

    Hog Guest

    If they are skillful they will take this as a protest vote and use the
    two years to build towards a major scoop next time around.
     
    Hog, Nov 9, 2006
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  15. Does he have any?

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Nov 9, 2006
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  16. Paul Corfield

    Hog Guest

    Do you have a clear view of him in daylight, from away down there to
    away up there.
     
    Hog, Nov 9, 2006
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  17. So producing the first properly balanced Federal budget in decades
    wasn't a significant achievement?
    As is Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney et. al. And far more blatantly..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 9, 2006
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  18. Eh?

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Nov 9, 2006
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  19. Paul Corfield

    ogden Guest

    We don't get to vote for a PM *or* leader of the opposition here. What's
    your point?
     
    ogden, Nov 9, 2006
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  20. That the leader of the opposition here is actually the person who will stand
    against the PM at the next election - they are, therefore the clear
    figurehead for the party, unlike the US system.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Nov 9, 2006
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