TOG@Toil,[email][/email], <[email][/email]> [QUOTE="wrote in message"] I wish you wouldn't do this sort of thing. I'm already hovering over a Yamaha XS650 (yes another one), a *mint* early Yamaha XV750, and a project BMW R65 (item 280141508637), which comes with a bike lift. I figure I can keep the bike lift, and break the Beemer for parts.[/QUOTE] Hmm, it doesn't look like much of a lift. I'd suspect it's very light weight. It also doesn't seem to "lift"... there's no jack or similar.