Buggered my sump plug.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Michael, Feb 22, 2005.

  1. Michael

    Michael Guest

    After 1 too many oil changes without using a torque wrench, I felt my sump
    plug 'give' when I tightened it and now there's the tell-tale drip of oil
    forming near the threads.

    Anywhere in Brisbane that could fix it without my having to drop the sump
    first (after removing the fairings, draining the radiator, removing the
    radiator, dropping the headers, etc etc)?

    Would a helicoil do the job, or do they use an oversize sump plug and tap
    the threads?

    Michael.

    PS Why do they use steel sump plugs and alloy sumps?
     
    Michael, Feb 22, 2005
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  2. You should be able to get an oversize tap and re-tap the thread ,then use an
    oversize plug.Better than helicoils
    Check the bike shops .
    Alloy sump plugs would cause bigger problems.
     
    Kevin\(Bluey\), Feb 22, 2005
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  3. Michael

    Johnnie5 Guest

    depends, did you crack it or just chew the thread out ?
    why do people not use a torque wrench ?

    reason for not using alloy/alloy as alloy grows and it would bind up and
    really stuff things up for ya
     
    Johnnie5, Feb 22, 2005
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  4. Michael

    Michael Guest

    Good question, I'm pretty sure I just started to strip the threads. Not too
    sure if I want to remove the plug to check, as at least it's still rideable
    atm.

    Michael.
     
    Michael, Feb 22, 2005
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  5. Michael

    sharkey Guest

    Because you're not meant to hang off the thing with a breaker!

    I don't like your chances of fixing it without removing the sump.

    If you're in Iron Knob right now or something, swaddle the bugger up
    with high-temp plumbers tape (it's sometimes called 'gasfitters tape')
    and it'll probably hold well enough to get you home.

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Feb 22, 2005
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  6. Michael

    John Guest

    So you have to buy a new sump rather than a 30 cent bolt ;)

    time to split the cases son ;)



    John
     
    John, Feb 22, 2005
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  7. Whilst not related to a repair, do you always use combination 150mm wrenches
    ? Usually it's hard to strip threads above 10mm with those unless you go mad
    with strength.
     
    Rheilly Phoull, Feb 22, 2005
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  8. Michael

    BT Humble Guest

    The bodgy technique is to remove your sump plug, drill and tap it for a
    (say) 8mm bolt, then araldite it back into your sump.

    If you *do* use that technique, I'd recommend holding the araldited
    plug with a spanner while you tighten or remove the "sub sump plug".


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Feb 22, 2005
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  9. Michael

    sharkey Guest

    Or just araldite the plug in and drain the oil out the dipstick hole
    by laying the bike on its side. Ummm.

    The really bodgy thing to do is not drain the oil at all, just
    top it up and let it leak out the failed driveshaft bearing.
    Instant chain oiler!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Feb 22, 2005
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  10. Michael

    sharkey Guest

    Previous bikes, mate, previous bikes. Not that I'd ever do anything
    like that anyway :) But this friend of a friend ...

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Feb 22, 2005
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  11. If it's a Harley it won't matter!!! They leak oil anyway!

    And if it is a Harley and it's not leaking.... it's outta oil!!
     
    Mark Donoghoe, Feb 23, 2005
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  12. Michael

    damige Guest

    I have in the past drilled out the hole and run the helicoil tap into the
    hole then inserted the helicoil then dumped 2 lts of kero into engine to
    flush out any swarf put a new fibre washer on sump bolt and never leaked
    again.
    most sump bolts are a 14mm thread. i have done this to tl1000, vtr 1000,
    pegaso 650 and 2 zzr250s so far.

    damige
     
    damige, Feb 23, 2005
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  13. Michael

    Toosmoky Guest

    And they don't have sumps...=> No sump plug to worry about...
     
    Toosmoky, Feb 23, 2005
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  14. Michael

    Johnnie5 Guest

    could have bought a torque wrench ;)
    \
     
    Johnnie5, Feb 23, 2005
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  15. Michael

    JustAL Guest

    I think I know that friend....big guy, rides a Transalp... ;)
     
    JustAL, Feb 23, 2005
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  16. Michael

    John Guest


    5 bikes?? - time to get a tension wrench mate ;)


    johno

    beer? < that doesn't need a tension wrench>
     
    John, Feb 23, 2005
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  17. Michael

    IK Guest

    He could always be a bike mechanic. Or he could have a lot of mates who
    don't knew their own strength.

    If, on the other hand, he did manage to strip the sump plug threads on
    five distinct bikes, I'd suggesting a slightly more drastic solution
    than getting a torque wrench.
    Indeed. You can damage them if you use them to twist stuff off.

    IK,
    who snapped a sparkplug in a cylinder head just the other week
     
    IK, Feb 23, 2005
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  18. Michael

    Biggus... Guest

    Dont change the oil on the XR then boss...
     
    Biggus..., Feb 23, 2005
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  19. Michael

    Conehead Guest

    Did you ever put oil in it, though?
     
    Conehead, Feb 23, 2005
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  20. Michael

    sharkey Guest

    ..... are domoed to repaet it?

    -----shraks
     
    sharkey, Feb 23, 2005
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