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Well Pipster I define lunatic fringe, The Greenies in this case, as folk who ignore practical working solutions within a developing society in favour of a backpedaling Tee-Pee dwelling luddite agenda. In doing so they set the cause back on its heels. What's you issue, are you a supporter of Current Things Greenpeace. You are normally pretty easy to follow but I don't see a parallel with the Sea Shepherds. They are on a very different tack with a straightforward issue which has pretty overwhelming public support, so I can't describe their actions as lunatic. Bold and very dangerous, physically and legally, granted. I find it a little difficult to be completely objective as I support their goal but I'll comment thus far. They are based in the USA, if half the bad press was true do you think uncle Sam or the lawyers would have let them continue? There has been lots of press about the concrete prows, all of it mentions ramming, none of it protection against floe ice. Of course Watson is involved in lots of other stuff which is waaay out there. Degrees of lunacy. No arguments there.
For some strange reason it still led to my needing a visa to enter France for many years thereafter. I guess if the Poms can't tell us apart, the Frogs have got no chance. -- Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration, Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005 WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon) KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
Paul Watson? yeah he's an ubber **** for sure. Trouble with vigilante action is that invariable runs out of control or goes off message, I know this only too well. I'd sooner see the RAF and USAF instructed to sink any whaling ship hunting on the high seas. This was just a (ex) veggie hang up until I watched the Beluga whales in Atlanta aquarium. They were at least as intelligent and more deserving of life as some of the human observers. I'd have to sample the respective flesh of both to be sure though.
Hmm well at least I enjoy my work, like the people around me and believe it will achieve something worthwhile fairly soon. Does wonders for the sanity.
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh! Thanks for the analysis - *much* appreciated. Any other fascinating insights on offer from the world of Hog?