BRIAN WALKER OFFER

Brian, I am posting this here instead of calling you so there is no
room for you to continue to post bullshit and distort the facts.
I am offering to purchase your bike for the $ 1500 you requested if
you bring the bike and the proper paperwork into me and act in a
professional and courteous manner. I am not making this offer out of
fear of any legal action on your part. I will never see a Judge. My
insurance company retains a lawyer to answer to the likes of you. I am
not buying the bike personally, so I will need a signed undated title
and the Texas Sales and Use Tax Certificate. I have decided that
dealing with you has lowered me to your standards and that to me is
professionally unacceptable. The only other condition I attach to this
offer is that you never enter my premises again. You make me feel
dirty dealing with you, so I've decided to treat you like you are a
valuable customer and make you whole so I will feel clean again. I
will reiterate that I offered to fix the side panel if you would leave
the bike so I would know what kind of grommet to attach. You chose to
leave and throw a fit. I'm through with this and my offer to act as
your agent, paying you up front and selling your bike at a zero profit
is my final offer and input. If you wish to have a cashiers check or
cash I will need one days notice because I do not keep those funds on
hand. If you want a personal check (insert your sarcasm here) I will
take the bike today. Its in your court.

Thanks,

Mike

 

That's nice Mike, but the purchase price as you set the price was
$2000. I didn't ask you to buy the bike. I asked you to fix what was
broken by your shop. After looking at the neglect and abuse by your
shop to my motorcycle, there was no way I would leave the bike there
any longer. After having your mechanic talking to me, that only
confirmed it.

You haven't done anything in this newsgroup to deny what happened to
my motorcycle. All you did was make yourself look like an ass. That's
the same crap I ran into in your shop.

BTW, something you haven't counted on....if I'm truly trying to screw
you out of something, why is it that I'm the one doing all the work to
repair what your shop screwed up? Why have I not insisted on a huge
dollar amount? Why have I been on ebay looking for a cheap fix so you
wouldn't be out a large amount of money? Why is that, Mike?

Why was not a single person from your shop out there to even help load
this motorcycle on the trailer I had to use to get my motorcycle
several blocks to my house after being in your shop to be sold?

 

I'm through with this discussion. You asked $ 1500 for the bike. I
have the paperwork. If you don't want the deal, so be it. You can talk
to my insurance company lawyer. END OF CONVERSATION

 

I'm going to say one more thing since your attitude still sucks. You
can go F yourself. You have blown this way out of proportion over a
dead battery and a side panel that I can fix. Seems you are nothing
but a shit stirrer. $ 1500 makes you whole, so why keep pissing and
moaning ? People want answers, they can call, and many have. All have
been negative about you.

 

That's about what I thought.

If you can "fix" it, then you have a funny way of showing it. I gave
that side panel to you no less than two times while I was there. The
motorcycle was in your shop while you all were looking at it knowing
it was broke. People (according to you) were recently looking at the
bike and pointing out the side panel was hanging off the back of the
bike, and you didn't do anything. I've been over here working on it
and you haven't bothered to help.

You're all talk Mike. Next time, maybe you'll think before you screw
up the next person's motorcycle. He might not be as nice as I've
been....as been pointed out here by many others.

BTW, it's not important to me what you think of me, or even what your
anonymous callers think. It *should* be important to you what others
think of you and your business. I certainly won't give you business
advice here, but I'll say you've done far greater damage to your
reputation that what I ever could've. All those "negative callers",
have any brought their motorcycle to you for work or consignment since
this happened with my motorcycle? Keep answering those phones, not
much of a money making opportunity slinging snot on a telephone about
me....but it'll keep you busy and off the streets.

I'll get the bills added up and file the paperwork at the JP's office.

 

Brian, could you turn this way a bit?.... I've never seen anyone who's
actually cut off their nose to spite there face, lol. You turn down 1500.00
for a bike that your were asking that for, in exchange for the money it
takes to fix it. Then what will you have? A bike that still won't sell for
1500.00, lol. Oh wait, you'll still have a reason to be pissed, lol. There's
a Master Card Commercial in all this some place....Give me a while... I'll
think of it...

Vic

 

I don't seem to recall turning anything down. I don't even seem to
recall asking Mike to buy this motorcycle. You're spinning out of
control there, Vic.

Let's recap, Mike set the price at $2000 for the purchase of this
bike. That's what *he* was asking for it. That's what he told many,
many people he wanted for it. He set the price, not me. Now he says
the bike is only worth $1500? Which is it?

Kelley lists the bike as $1840 and NADA lists it for $1923

Besides that, I still don't have that sack of cash from him. Where is
it?

Now, I'd enjoy spending the entire day chit chatting with you about
this, but I've got a motorcycle in my garage that I need to get back
to working on....and Mike's still no where to be found to help!

 

Go ahead Brian. I think all I have to show is that I offered you what
you asked for the bike. You seem more intent on arguing than selling
the motorcycle. Book value on the bike is under $ 1000. I'll forward
all your internet comments and such to the people I need to send them
to. I told you if you left with the bike it was your responsibility. I
also told you if you left it, I would get it fixed. You chose to take
the bike and slander me on this board. For your information, I had
lowered the bike to $ 1750, willing to take $ 250 commission to sell
the bike. Before you spend a lot of money on court costs, you might
want to read paragraph 10 of the consignment agreement that states
'Risk of loss of goods shall be the responsibility of theConsignor
including any test rides authorized or permitted by Consignor. You
requested that the bike be shown outside. People sit on the bikes and
may sometimes damage the bike and the damage is invisible to us.
To answer your questions:
1. The bike was shown and started on Saturday
2. We were closed Sunday and Monday
3. I requested that the bikes remain inside Tuesday and Wednesday
because I had a mechanic off for a family funeral and if it rained I
would be unable to get the bikes out of the rain in time.
4. I don't know why your battery went down-they get weak when only
started and ridden from the front of the store to the back over and
over. We maintain the batteries when they go down. Obviously the
battery was OK. You said you charged it and it was running fine. Your
bike would have been wiped down and the battery charged before it was
placed out front. It was by the back door so it could be put inside
quickly.
5. The damage (broken 'tit' ) was invisible to me and to customers
looking at the bike. It may or may not have happened here. The reason
it became noticeable is because the mechanic removed the side panel to
charge the battery for you.
6. As far as dirty, when you brought the bike in the wheels were
filthy. The bike was clean, and over time, with the weather, it got
somewhat dustier than we normally allow the bikes to become. I
personally wipe down and shine the bikes about once or twice a week.
You had dust, not mud on your bike. You know what the weather has been
like for the last month. You just want to keep this going, but this
time, with the posts you have made, you are going to lose this little
battle if and when you go to court. I am more than prepared to sue in
return for slander and terroristic threats. I am also prepared to
offer you the obvious solution and that is to give you what you
originally asked for the bike. That is far more than you would get
from any other shop in town. You say I'm all talk. I backed up my side
when I made the offer to purchase the bike for your full asking price.

 

You just can't keep from lying, can you Mike?

Glad to see the truth about your silly offer came out. Nothing more
than some legal bullshit to try and cover your ass.

We'll see if Judge Blackington agrees with your silly horseshit.

 

Mike, it is not my dogfight and don't want to get in it too far. But I am
thinking that if your shop really did mistreat his bike or broke something
on it, a real apoloygy without conditions would be a good place to start.
All of us can get out of sorts and make mistakes sometimes and what I have
to do is when I am wrong, I have to just own it and not place any blame on
anyone else for my wrong. On the other hand, if I am not wrong, I wont back
down either. Well, that is not entirely true. I am married to someone I care
about and sometimes I have to bend over to get some peace back. It doesn't
hurt too long.

A friend of mine used to tell me I could be right or I could be happy. I
wonder what he meant?

Good luck with this for you and Brian.

 

It appears you know less about consignment then your father, lol. The
important number here is what you told the dealer you had to have for the
bike when you brought it to the dealership. If the dealer is on the ball, he
will display the bike at a number that gives you and him a bit of wiggle
room. This is really quite basic, Brian, all dealers do that. Having a
sticker price of 2000.00 seems about right to eventually get the 1500.00. I
would imagine that there are very few here who've paid the sticker price on
a used bike. If you have, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, lol. I think
you understand all this Brian. I also think had there been an offer from
anyone else but the dealer for 1500.00, you would have jumped on it. It's
like I said before, you're pissed at the dealer, and now you're trying to
screw him.

So, you were already prepaired to sell it for less then it was worth? Must
not have been in as good a shape as you say it was, lol

Vic

 

NADA April 2006 (a Year Ago) Wholesale=1050, Average=1230,
Clean=1560. Look it up yourself. Nobody uses Bluebook. Ask any dealer.
(Unless they are selling, that is)

 

Brian,
Sending Certified Letter Your Way Monday. Mike

 

Brian, You told me you HAD TO HAVE $ 1500. I then told you I would
have to list it for 2000 to get you that amount. At no time did I tell
you the bike was worth 2000. The listing price is why it didn't sell.
I lowered it to 1800-1750 to get it to move. Also, I tried to call
you, and left a message to call me. Lets keep our facts straight. You
haven't seen any cash because I haven't seen any bike. If you would
like to have it picked up rather than come here, then let me know. If
you would like a copy of the NADA value of the bike I will be glad to
copy and forward it to you . Thanks,

Mike

 

And you plan to have someone believe you were trying to sell my
motorcycle in the condition you had it in for double of what you
believed it was worth?

Nah, you expect to buy my motorcycle for less than it's worth after I
fixed your neglect and abuse, then make a $600 profit for yourself.
Tell your bullshit to someone else.

http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa51/shadowrider34/RenegadeHackJob/

 

So you go spend your time selling it. You brought it in, told me what
you needed and in an effort to be fair, I offered you what you wanted.
Go ahead, keep it. We'll see what happens in court. If I lose, I lose.
If you lose, you lose. You seem to like confrontation. Your pictures
only confirm what I said. The bike got caught outside a few times and
needed a slight cleaning. Again, go look at a car lot or even a new mc
dealer. You will find that most bikes are detailed when they are sold.
Rain happens, believe it or not. Smart buyers can see through the dust
spots and determine the value of the bike. But probably not in your
version of the real world. There ain't no pot of gold at the end of
the rainbow for you in this deal pal. So go ahead and beat your head
against the wall. I've offered all I'm going to offer. Since you like
to argue so much, I'm going to send you my offers via registered mail
and will not answer any more of your crap on this forum. I only came
here because I was alerted that you were a maniac posting slander by
another of my customers. Seems most here know you for what you and
your father are and believe me, the consensus ain't good. People like
you that pop off all the time get to be known by your mouth and most
sane people learn to ignore you. I have decided to return to reality
and ignore you as well. You or your father (maybe) -you never know -
threaten to put me in Ray Hubbard. Love it. Come by and try. Some
people like you just don't know a good deal when you see it. You won't
enter into a win win situation. And believe me,if I could have sold
your 20 year old bike for 2000 dollars it would have already been
gone. I'll be lucky to get what I offered you. For your own peace of
mind, why don't you drive around and see what any other dealer will
give you. Or better yet, run it in MC online and send me the bill. If
you sell it for more than 1500, I'll pay for your ad.

 

Wait... is this same bike I offered to buy for $1500 ($1900 delivered
to PA)? I thought you sold that already.

 

Where's the beef ? You've done a lot of talking and posturing about
someone slandering your sorry ass, don't have to "slander" someone
like you.. If you think that I've "slandered" you .. why aren't you headed
for the courthouse ? Better take the time to look up the meaning of
slander.. For the record.. I never "threatened" you with Lake Ray Hubbard..
lol.. That one came from another one of your "satisfied customers" that
has had such good dealins' with you.. Better take another look at that
post I did on that one, huh ? Also for the record.. you sure "snapped" on
that one, alright.. Could that be because you've heard it before ? I'd bet
on it..

Again.. "for the record".. Renegade Motorcycles is one of the few deal-
ers in our metroplex, that needs to be shut down.. Mike Thompson is
one of the shoddy dealers that needs exposure.. Nobody needs to take
my word for it.. it's all right there on Gus Thommason, for anybody to see..
hmmm.. unless they've all been moved out, the collection of junk that you
have had "for sale" is a good indicator of the kind of motorcycle business
that you are conducting.. If I am in need of salvage, I'll go to Bates..
they
advertise their product, honestly..

hmmm.. When that so called tech of yours, started talking about cutting
the frame on a motorcycle.. to remove the casing cover to rebuild a
clutch assembly.. When your so-called tech.. had to ask the owner of
an Electra Glide, how to take a wheel off.. for a tire replacement.. that
did it for me.. The Electra Glide belongs to a friend of mine in Arizona..
I'd recommended your shop as a good place to buy tires and since he
was travelling, he gave you a shot.. The frame cutting deal was my own
motorcycle and three of those cud chewing were looking that little 800
over to see if they could do the job.. When they started talking about
cutting frames and shit, me and that little Vulcan went on down the road..

I don't know why Brian had such confidence in you and continued to do
business at Renegade Motorcycles.. much less entrusting you to con-
sign a nice motorcycle to you, for sale.. Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suz-
uki nor Harley Davidson have ever put even one of their motorcycles on
your property, for you to sell for them, much less offer you a dealership
to handle their product..

The sale of that Hurricane isn't going to make or break Brian Walker..
Hell .. he's got a couple more motorcycles sitting in his garage.. That
Hurricane isn't going to eat much more than either of them..

Like I keep saying.. you and I both know why you are making the offer
to buy that motorcycle for that price, and it damned sure isn't out of
the goodness of your heart.. Trouble is.. Brian isn't some lil' ol' gal
that doesn't know which end of a motorcycle to climb on.. He also
isn't one of the good ol' boys from the 'hood, over there.. Even tho
he isn't in the motorcycle business, he's been riding motorcycles
for a long time and a lot of miles.. Be that as it may.. it don't take
much conversation and dealing to spot a two bit asshole that is
going to screw someone.. He brought his motorcycle to you so
that you could sell it for him.. You and your crew of ex-hobos fucked
up that motorcycle so bad, he picked it up.. hmmm.. Could be a
question of breach of contract, here.. huh ? Anyone could reason-
ably expect a reputable dealer to take care of his motorcycle while
it is entrusted to him.. for repair or consignment sale..

Bill Walker

 

LMAO.. What difference does it make ? You didn't have the $1500, anyway;..
Otherwise the motorcycle would be sitting in your garage, wouldn't it ?

 

I know this one, Bill: brian is a dumbass.