Brands ESS Pace Day

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Monkey, May 9, 2005.

  1. Monkey

    Monkey Guest

    I've just completed a 'Pace Day' with the European Superbike School at
    Brands Hatch (Indy circuit), and was pretty impressed. They stick a
    transponder on your bike (not impressed that it cost a tenner to hire it
    though) at the start of the day, and then based on your best lap in the
    first and third sessions, they assign you to appropriate starting positions
    for the next session.

    It seemed to work pretty well, virtually eliminating the frustration of
    getting stuck behind slower riders, and generally guaranteeing a good tussle
    with a rider of similar abilities. Not that it's a competative event in any
    way, of course... You also get to find out your lap times after the event.

    After getting grief on here for my 'lazy' approach to track days (not
    bothering to learn the circuit systematically), I made a point of really
    trying to remember braking markers this time, and bugger me it made a big
    difference. It really helps to overcome any lack of bottle you may have,
    when you _know_ you braked at the 200m marker for Paddock Hill Bend last
    time, and had plenty of room to spare. You can then start to inch that
    marker closer and closer to the corner, until you scare the shit out of
    yourself.

    I had one _major_ moment on the day - coming out of Paddock, I thought I'd
    try and get past the guy in front on the exit, pinned the throttle, and the
    back wheel just let go. It slid one way, gripped, kicked me out of the
    saddle, and I think I only managed to stay on by virtue of the fact that my
    chin collided with the screen as I fell forward. New trousers please.

    Overall though, an excellent day. The rain event held off for all but half a
    session. It _pissed_ down on the way home though - pity the poor sods who
    were just turning up for a track evening as we were leaving.
     
    Monkey, May 9, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Sounds like fun.


    One of the things I want to do when I get back is buy a van, and a
    track bike [0] and do lots of track days, without worrying about (a)
    getting a fucked bike home (b) the cost of repairing a road bike and
    (c) getting to work the next day.


    [0] Waves to darsy
     
    Ben Blaney, May 10, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    Have you read Keith Code's "The Soft Science of Road Racing Motor Cycles:
    Technical Procedures and Workbook for Road Racing Motor Cycles"? Is it
    useful?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/096504503X/ref=pd_bxgy_text_2_cp/
    202-0769927-8314208
     
    sweller, May 10, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Champ, May 10, 2005
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    CT Guest

    You're planning on working when you get back? I'd have thought
    you would be planning on doing not a lot apart from planning
    for retirement.
     
    CT, May 10, 2005
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  6. Monkey

    Ben Blaney Guest

    It doesn't pay that well!
     
    Ben Blaney, May 10, 2005
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  7. Monkey

    Monkey Guest

    I wouldn't have minded if they pointed it out at the time of booking - but I
    only found out I had to fork out extra after I received the full details of
    the day.
    I always thought it was something to do with it having to be a
    'non-competitive event' for legal purposes - hence the reason they have to
    give you your times afterwards.
    Never actually read it - although I've picked up numerous useful snippets
    from it over the years. Suppose I should invest at some point though.
     
    Monkey, May 10, 2005
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  8. Monkey

    Monkey Guest

    Well I have to say - this timing lark is fucking addictive already, so that
    book is looking more appealing by the second. I got the times today - a best
    lap of 1:01.214. So now I'm aching to get straight back out on that track
    with a few tips under my hat, to shave off that pesky 1.214 seconds. Dammit.

    I was quite chuffed with that time 'til I saw the lap record for the R6
    Cup - how the hell anyone cap go round there in 50.215 seconds on a 600 is
    beyond me.
     
    Monkey, May 11, 2005
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  9. Monkey

    Salad Dodger Guest

    The outright record is 38.02, by Scott Mansell, in Alesi's old F1 car.

    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
    |_\_____/_| ..75113../..18561.../..3184./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
    '^' RBR Landmarks: 12 Pts: 220 Miles: 914
     
    Salad Dodger, May 11, 2005
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    antonye Guest

    I don't want to piss on your fire, but some of the guys
    in the Desmo Due series are doing Brands Indy in sub
    1 min times, around the mid 58secs. On a bike with less
    than half the horsepower of yours ;-)
     
    antonye, May 12, 2005
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  11. Monkey

    Monkey Guest

    And what fire would that be that you're pissing on? I was chuffed with the
    time _for me_, but I'm not saying it was a quick time in the grand scheme of
    things (as evidenced by the R6 Cup reference). There was a guy in my group
    on an RGV250 lapping about a second quicker than me, and a guy in his
    mid-forties on a 1994 'jellymould' CBR600 going only marginally slower.
    Respect.
     
    Monkey, May 12, 2005
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