Brake

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by taz, Dec 28, 2004.

  1. taz

    taz Guest

    Would it be possible if designed right and using the
    right materials, to fit a brake calliper over the rear wheel
    sprocket to aid rear wheel braking.

    taz.
     
    taz, Dec 28, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    Most things are possible, practical is another question altogether.

    If available brake force is the problem I'd direct my efforts to the
    front brake. Dicking around with the rear is a waste of time and money.

    If it's a question of confidence "Oooh, don't want to lock up the front
    'cos I'm a girly pansy foo foo" I'd go out and practice. Or buy a car.
     
    sweller, Dec 28, 2004
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    taz Guest

    Most things are possible, practical is another question altogether.
    I would agree with you for road use but The bike in question is one I use
    over in a large quarry and I was thinking of shareing the load out on the
    back
    wheel a bit more.

    I will ignor this coment. Say it again though and I'll scratch your eyes and
    hit
    you with my hand bag :)

    taz

     
    taz, Dec 28, 2004
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    taz composed the following ...
    I ride a '79 Beamish Suzuki Trials and a '91 Fantic 307 Trials .. the
    Suzuki doesn't have brakes, or it does, but not so's you'd notice, the
    Fantic can stop on a sixpence. The Suzuki is easier to ride 'on the brake'
    but the Fantic locks up rear (and front) at will with very little effort.
    It's almost impossible to feather the brakes, they seem either on or off (I
    suspect a change of pads might help me with that), but I still mostly use
    front.

    Rear brake is only really used on very steep downhills, when it's just as
    good locked, for balancing, or for sliding round obstacles and skids, it
    doesn't really slow the bike much, the front does that, whatever the
    conditions. ;)
    As my bit above suggests, I agree with Sweller ... ;)
     
    Paul - xxx, Dec 28, 2004
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  5. taz

    taz Guest

    Rear brake is only really used on very steep downhills, when it's just as
    That is the reason I asked. I use the bike in a quarry and I wondered
    if adding a second calliper would be possible to share the stresses involved
    out a bit.

    taz.
     
    taz, Dec 28, 2004
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    taz composed the following ...
    I use our bikes in quarries too. When you're riding competently, rear
    brakes do do a surprising amount of work, but they don't slow you down much,
    they just help balance the bike while the front slows it.

    Whatever braking force you add at the rear will be negated by the lack of
    grip. So long as the back wheel can lock, you don't really need anymore
    force. If it can't lock, then there's a serious problem with the brake, and
    you need to fix that before adding anything.

    IMHO. ;)
     
    Paul - xxx, Dec 28, 2004
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, taz
    You'd have a problem with the chain lube getting on the pads.

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 28, 2004
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    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as taz says...
    Like this?

    http://www.eurocomponentsusa.com/sprotor.html
     
    petrolcan, Dec 28, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    ... you thick twat.
     
    Pip, Dec 28, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    <sigh> There's a bike with a sprocket caliper in just about every single
    issue of BSH. Chop chains aren't lubed, they're /polished/.
     
    platypus, Dec 28, 2004
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  11. taz

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    Oh. Silly me.

    You'd have a problem with the chain lube getting on the pads if you ever
    rode the fucking thing.

    (Actually, on reflection, I have seen a combined sprocket and disk. But
    only on belt drives.)

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 28, 2004
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  12. taz

    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
    I posted a link earlier showing a chain sprocket.
     
    petrolcan, Dec 28, 2004
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  13. taz

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
    Well, yes. But you're Irish.

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 28, 2004
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  14. taz

    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
    With £20m in his hip pocket :)
     
    petrolcan, Dec 28, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    platypus says...
    Chop chains are never used, they're trailered
     
    Lozzo, Dec 28, 2004
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
    <G>

    Go and get the Hippo MOTd then. ;^)

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 28, 2004
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    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
    It's my new year resolution to do so.
     
    petrolcan, Dec 28, 2004
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
    Good man. I'll take care of any necessary repairs (and re-taxing it in
    the unlikely event of a pass).

    I fully expect it to fail on something. You might want to give the
    stanchions a good wipe down just before entering the MOT estaminet...

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 28, 2004
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    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
    It'll pass. Trust me.
    Fresh rag at the ready :)
     
    petrolcan, Dec 28, 2004
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
    Make it a clean one. We don't want to skimp on maintenance, do we?

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 28, 2004
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