Brake pipe bore

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by taz, Jan 2, 2005.

  1. taz

    taz Guest

    Is there any reason why the bore of a brake pipe has to
    be the size it is? If the pipe is only use to transmit preasure
    from one end to the other could the bore be smaller than it is?

    Cheers taz.
     
    taz, Jan 2, 2005
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    Bantam Guest

    Smaller bore probably means higher friction losses in the pipe (it would
    have to move faster and further). Also, the fluid may therefore be
    unable to reverse flow fast enough when the brake lever is released.
    Don't know what the ideal flow rate is but suspect that it is better to
    be slower rather than quicker (bigger rather than smaller bore) to avoid
    friction losses and other issues associated with hydraulics.
     
    Bantam, Jan 2, 2005
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    Dan L Guest

    Dunno if this is of any help, but the aftermarket braided hos
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    es always seem to be a smaller bore than the original rubber hoses. mined
    ewe, this is purely as viewed fro the exterior, rather than looking at the
    hole size, iyswim.
     
    Dan L, Jan 2, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Well, the pad does move a bit. Which means the piston moves a bit.
    Which means the fluid moves down the hoses.

    ISTR that there's a version of braided hose called microbore, or
    similar, which is meant to provide some improvement, but I can't be
    bothered to do the physics now.
     
    Champ, Jan 6, 2005
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    Mark Olson Guest

    I just had a conversation with a mechanical engineer with some amount of
    hydraulic knowledge. He reckons that there will be a small improvement in
    brake feel due to lower stress on the smaller ID brake hose. Same sort
    of improvement that you get from going from a somewhat 'springy' rubber
    brake hose to a braided stainless covered hose, although probably not
    the same magnitude of improvement.

    He wasn't able to say where the crossing over point would be, between
    improved feel and and unwanted restriction in fluid flow from the
    reduced diameter.

    My take on it is that I wouldn't go for anything drastic, changing from
    3mm ID to 2mm ID should be safe enough, but as far as there being a huge
    improvement, I'd doubt it. I'd certainly not pay a premium for it.
     
    Mark Olson, Jan 6, 2005
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    taz Guest

    I just had a conversation with a mechanical engineer with some amount of
    I'm not quite sure of the internal size of the pipe on it, at the moment
    but if the external size is owt to go on then it would be about 6mm.
    They are not braded steel ones though. I was going to use a stainless
    steel braided hose that in comparison seems much less in diameter.
    If 3mm on a braided hose is OK Then the ones I have will do just fine.

    Cheers taz.
     
    taz, Jan 7, 2005
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