Brake pads

Bear says...

**** it. I'm going to carry on taking the piss cos it's funny.

 

ROTFLMAO

Ya coward

Oi lives on the edge oi does! )

 

Lozzo says...

I've got EBC HHs on the Fatblade, they seem much better than the standard
Honda ones and good enough to squeal the front tyre from 100MPH+, so
what's up with them?

 

Well, yes, but the brakes *are* shit on that thing.

 

Heh.. I'd say. However, I only bought them once.

 

Doesnotcompute says...

I don't follow you on this. Just about everything we buy is a compromise
between cost and effectiveness or we'd all be using radial brakes and
Ohlins GP spec suspension complete with CF wheels. Asking for something
decent and fairly cheap seems perfectly reasonable to me. Its not like
SP's asking for the cheapest ones regardless of how crap they are.

Doesn't good VFM cover "decent but fairly cheap"?

FWIW I like the EBC HHs on my bike, but I seem to be in a minority of one
on that.

 

Doesnotcompute says...

Ah, we may be arguing semantics here, I took 'cheap' in the context SP
used to mean 'not a lot of money' rather than 'cheap shit' type cheap.

It struck me as fairly contentious.

 

Main Entry: 2cheap
Function: adjective
1 a : purchasable below the going price or the real value b : charging
or obtainable at a low price c : depreciated in value (as by currency
inflation) <cheap dollars>
2 : gained with little effort <a cheap victory>
3 a : of inferior quality or worth : TAWDRY, SLEAZY b : contemptible
because of lack of any fine, lofty, or redeeming qualities c : STINGY
4 a : yielding small satisfaction b : paying or able to pay less than
going prices
5 of money : obtainable at a low rate of interest

So you're both right, but you're more right than dnc.

 

SP emerged from their own little world to say

Ferodo Platinum are favourites with GS riders
http://www.federal-mogul.com/cda/content/front/0,2194,2442_10852_10648,00.html

Less than two thirds the price of BMW pads.

 

I have them on the Pan.
Combined with a great degree of prayer, they work fine.

However, as champ has already pointed out, the brakes aren't up to
much anyway.

 

mups says...

Wait until your discs are fucked, then you tell me.

 

Doesnotcompute says...

Yes it is, you just have to know what to buy and not blindly follow
marketing hype.

Vesrah seem to do what Lesley needs quite well, and at a very good
price.

 

Bear says...

They were originals, some very fucked and delaminating Sumitomos.

 

Bear says...

Moores Racing removed the Sumitomo pads from their race R6 and then
their race R1 and fitted Vesrahs because they preferred the feel. I
dunno why they did it because Sumitomo make pads for Vesrah. I showed
them this when I put a standard R1 pad next to a Vesrah one and they had
exactly the same markings embossed in the backplates

 

Two.

 

Possibly three. I had them on my SV, but after the non-HH pads they
replaced I suppose I wasn't really comparing like for like.

 

Cheap but not shit.

That seems to be exactly what was requested.

It is easy to spend little money on shit; it is easy to spend a lot of
money on shit. Premium products can be bought at comparably huge
expense - the art of running (an expensive toy like) a motorcycle on a
budget is to find those elusive products that represent good value for
money. To those of us without dosh, picking the right product first
time is regularly necessary.



I'll hold my hands up here and admit to cutting corners on pads last
year, which damn near led to me not so much cutting a corner as
elongating a straight instead of making a corner.
A set of 24 quid *a set* EBC 'greens' does not combine very well with
a heavy 140bhp bike, a long line of uk.r.m bikes and a disappearing
Bonwick on the front door.

Up a long straight hill, over the crest, right over onto the other
side of the road and WFO - past the whole lot and back over the white
line. Roll off, squeeze on - and squeeze hard.

Trying to haul the RF down from 160ish to make a 60 degree corner
which on a good day I might normally take at 80 became an issue when
the brakes faded away to fuckall (on their first application) inside a
second. Increased lever pressure only served to amplify the
vibrations and noise from the protesting brakes, until I gave in
altogether, released brakes and aimed bike, still at a fairly
ludicrous speed, at the apex.

Major-league countersteering, winding throttle on and the whole plot
sorted itself out, blithely accelerating into the next bend - a
90-plus degree real corner with a chainlink fence in the double-top
position.

Rear brake, front brake, sit up and beg it was. Down three, hang on,
tip in and hang off, it went. Leaning, gassing, pushing the inside
bar, scraping the inside peg and suddenly all three lemons came up and
round we went. Then into the twisties, still with 'Hog on the Thou
chasing my arse and Bonwick disappearing down the hill in front.

That was a fucking hoot, that afternoon - but I made sure to be in a
position with runoff for the rest of it, and not to be in a position
where savage brake application would be required as much as possible.
Still needed sixth(1) on a couple of occasions, when the 9R in front
was edging away and the RF wouldn't go any more 'cos the rev counter
needle was already in the red. Curse that big back sprocket.

I will learn this lesson though - those 'greens' are staying in until
they're fucked: that'll larn me.


1. It only has five.

 

You said it.

So often, something that costs (say) 50% more either lasts three times
as long, or does the job three times better.