Brake fluid - how long until unusable/does anyone North-West-ish want some?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Christofire, Jun 29, 2004.

  1. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    After doing my brakes recently I've been left with a fair bit of this
    left. As I've not done this before, how long until it becomes unusable
    now I've opened the pot?

    If it's still ok at the moment, does anyone want it/their brakes doing?

    [1] i.e. a few weeks since initial opening, with the top screwed on as
    tightly as I can get it since.
     
    Christofire, Jun 29, 2004
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  2. Seal it tightly, and it lasts for years, as long as you don't shake the
    bottle (frothing and air buibbles, and even then it'll be OK if you let
    it settle).

    Well, I've used elderly well-sealed brake fluid and I'm still here to
    tell the tale.

    Seriously, the only real worry is the ingress of moisture as brake fluid
    is highly hygroscopic. But sealing the container properly will take care
    of that.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 29, 2004
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  3. Christofire

    SteveH Guest

    The bottle says to use a fresh one every time.

    However, I have a bottle I keep in the garage for topping up shite old
    cars as and when they need it.

    I'm sure you're not supposed to do that - but I've not had a problem
    using stuff that's as much as 6 months old.
     
    SteveH, Jun 29, 2004
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  4. Six months?

    Wimp!!
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 29, 2004
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  5. Christofire

    SteveH Guest

    You'll note my reference to Shite old Cars, and realise why I only have
    it for 6 months ;-)
     
    SteveH, Jun 29, 2004
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  6. Christofire

    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as The Older Gentleman says...
    Hadn't that already been established?


    :)
     
    petrolcan, Jun 29, 2004
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  7. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    Cheers to you and TOG then - it should be fine in the bottle it came in
    as it's not squisy with the top on, indicating it's pretty airtight.
     
    Christofire, Jun 29, 2004
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  8. Christofire

    TMack Guest

    The reason it becomes unusable is because it is hygroscopic (absorbs
    moisture from the atmosphere). If the air space in a tightly sealed
    container is relatively small then there is not likely to be any appreciable
    risk. However, a small amount in the bottom of a large container would pose
    more of a risk as there would be more air above the fluid from which water
    might be absorbed. If the container is not tightly sealed then there would
    be a considerable risk that would increase the longer the fluid was unused.

    Tony
     
    TMack, Jun 30, 2004
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  9. Christofire

    TMack Guest

    Afterthought - the above only applies to glycol based brake fluids -
    silicone based brake fluids (DOT 5) do not have this problem - however, they
    tend to make seals that contain any natural rubber swell much more than
    glycol fluids which can lead to leaks - and silicone fluids are more prone
    to foaming and also become compressible at temperatures near to their
    boiling point which may make them unsuitable for high performance vehicles
    or racing vehicles.

    Tony
     
    TMack, Jun 30, 2004
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  10. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    Cheers matey - so it's just pop the egg in and do what?
    However, this is new to me. I thought all brake fluid was hygroscopic,
    not just DOT 5, hence the "only use new, from a sealed container"
    warnings.
     
    Christofire, Jun 30, 2004
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  11. Christofire

    Pip Guest

    You have read it wrong, Chris. The silicone fluid is not hygroscopic,
    but all the rest are. You don't want to use the silicone variety
    though, as it compresses and boils more easily, plus you have to flush
    it thoroughly through the system if replacing conventional fluid, as
    the twain must never meet.

    DOT5 was a lovely idea - non-hygroscopic, non-corrosive (paint
    friendly) but a bit of a non-starter in the functionality stakes.

    As far as the longevity of fluid goes - I've used sealed bottles that
    have been on the shelf for *yonks* and it has been fine. I've also
    used fluid from opened containers that has been on the shelf for yonks
    (like two years plus) and it has been fine.

    I've even used the gradually diminishing remnants of a 5 litre can of
    the stuff that lasted me about four years, and it was fine. Just
    don't shake before use, that's the only rule I acknowledge - oh, apart
    from washing it off painted surfaces pdq.
     
    Pip, Jun 30, 2004
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  12. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    Well, that's pretty much how my knowledge of brake fluid stood before
    this thread, the only bit missing being experience of using fluid that
    has been open for x days/months/years.

    Apologies to TMack then, for reading his post wrongly.
     
    Christofire, Jul 4, 2004
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