In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:59:03 -0700 (PDT) [QUOTE="theo"] The company I worked for, NCR, did some experimenting with company cars, so I got an EH Holden van, a Fiat 500, and a Mini 850 van in the sixties. I never noticed that the Fiat didn't have synchro.[/QUOTE] I wasn't allowed to drive Dad's Fiat Lombardi, but I suspect that if it didn't have syncro he couldn't have driven it either. OK with lab gear but not mechanically sympathetic enough to cope with cars that man... Zebee - who learned double-de-clutching on the '53 Chev truck. Which had its own idiosyncracies well beyond that minor one! And has learned all about careful motorcycle gear changes from the Old Girl. An engine speed clutch, the flywheel that ate Chicago, shaft drive, and a heel/toe gearchange mean you had damn well better change gears properly.