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Nidge says...

How about the council claim off Antonye for damaging the road with his
broken bike bits. After all, it was him negligently braking on the
overbanding that was applied to repair the road that caused this
accident.

It was an avoidable crash. He braked in the wrong place because his
observation wasn't up to scratch at the time and he didn't avoid the
overbanding. Sorry Ant, but that's the way I see it.

Shit happens and we pay the price.

 

Chap who's going to be my best man successfully took Stratford County
Council to court over a badly fitted catseye that caused his GSXR750
to tank slap and throw him off. It sat a couple of inches proud of
the road rather than properly inset. Won the cost of his bike and
clothing.

 

Ben says...

Fair play if a repair is done badly. I damaged both wheels on my 2nd
ZZR1100 in Scotland on a huge pothole that had obviously been there a
while and hadn't been filled, I tried to claim but they wriggled out of
it. Overbanding is very visible, and we all know that braking on it or
crossing it when cranked over is not a very good idea.

 

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Ouch ouch ouch, and double ouch.

Yup. Unlucky. Now all you need is an RTA masking all the damage to the
bike, and get some 3rd party to pay for it... ;-)

 

Yeah, it's pretty handy that people give up biking when they get
pregnant.

 

Yeah, my initial thought was just like you, he should have seen it.
But then catseyes are such a normal thing, that you can normally get
away with hitting that when you're doing an overtake you rarely give
them a second thought.

It wasn't easy him claiming, my Dad (a civil engineer who builds roads
by profession) was roped in to help with proving the proper specs for
it and it took 5 years in total. You'd think Stratford would be
slightly more biker friendly.

 

Spot on Loz, I agree with you completely. I was going to fast, hit
the brakes too hard and would probably have got away with it if not
for the overbanding. I'm big enough to admit my mistakes and pay
for them too.

 

Hang on a minute, aren't we already paying for the roads? Why is it
acceptable for us to have to still deal with shitty overbanding, slippery
inch thick road markings, manhole covers in the middle of bends, massive
potholes, etc? Antony's admitted his error and good on him for that. It
doesn't however release the councils from their responsiblity to maintain
the roads. How many of the much-loved statistics on biker accidents are down
to poor road surfaces?

The opposite of litigation culture is simply the other side of a coin. And
if a council was successfully sued for this type of negligence maybe a bit
more of their backslapping, palm-greasing deals would go to sorting out
shitty roads instead of plastering the place with cameras and cones.

 

You're going to have to explain this one to me: You tried to claim for an
accident that was similarly avoidable to the one antony described?

 

"some"

 

Exactly.

"Saw Matlock in a bar last night, the sound was down but I think I got the
gist of it"

 

IMO/E overbanding is a lot less visible than a stonking great pothole.

 

I had to read it a couple of times but I got it in the end!

 

Ow. Commiserations.

I should have given it a try in France shouldn't I before you broked it :-( !

Cheers

Paul.

 

dwb says...

Try finding a water-filled pothole on a wet road. You'll see the
overbanding nearby quite easily.

If you can't see overbanding on a bend in the dry, might I suggest a
trip to your opticians, that is if you can read this message.

 

Porl says...

No. The road was not repaired and the pothole wasn't visible because it
was full of water. It was on a straight and I'd overtaken a car and come
across to find a largeish puddle right in front of my bike. I rode
through it, as you or anyone else would. I didn't even realise it was a
pothoole, let alone how deep it was. Even if I'd seen it and realised
what it was, if I'd tried to take avoiding action I'd have been
mincemeat. Councils and their contractors[1] have a duty to repair
damaged roads within a set time. This one hadn't been repaired when I
returned to take photos over 3 weeks later. I gave up trying to fight
the fuckers after over a year of arguing with them. I try my hardest to
avoid making any kind of manouver on overbanding, which is always highly
visible and always very slippy.

Fair play to Ant for admitting his mistake.

[1] In this case the contractors were called 'Bear'

 

Pardon?

 

Bummer. But hey any spill you walk away from is a good spill.

Thought *exactly* that a couple of weeks ago whilst tarmac surfing
after the mille in the traditional sit position. Nice bright white
expensive sparks after i'd lowsided the mille at the hairpin at
Rockingham.

To my surprise i found only a nice scratch on the belly pan, an
indicator broken, and superficial scratches on the barend, can and
brake lever.

.... and two crash bungs ground down, one all the way to the bolt.

R&G Crash bungs YKIMS.