[QUOTE] FI is the better one of the F650s. More grunt, markedly lower consumption. Mate had a 2003 model (before his stack), under 4l/100km...2-up. Trannie is ok, but overpriced for oooold technologie, has the bloody HISS-system and is a veeery slow seller. Seen deals of k onroad. And that's too much for what it is... If overall size/ height isn't a problem, try the Suzie DL-650 (Wee-Strom), again K onroad (after haggling), and one sweet package. cheers pete [/QUOTE] Hey Pete, She's just seen a pic of an R1150GS 2001 model with 16000 k on it for 000. She f- - kin want's it. I told her it'd be heavy for her off road but she reallyl want's it. Do they still have that (dare I say it) torque vibration problem ? And...would it be heavy to pick up if (when) she falls off it? Can you get pack racks for them to hold a tent sleeping bags pots & pans for camping etc?