Simon Atkinson wrote[QUOTE] Muck said: That's what I reckoned... Bless her, just got back - all proud having done 10 miles.[/QUOTE] Look forward to the joyous way she tells you that she has discovered the freedom to come and go as she pleases. Good one that is. Still later follows the partial understanding of what dad has been on about all these years. At which point you are likely to take her by the neck and demand his name and present whereabouts. Not long after this she will actually become closer to you and less negative in her ways as she realises that an indicator lens and brake lever costs twice as much as she spends on her mobile in a month. Personably I think mine took it a bit far when we were on a little ride out when she told this bunch of modern lads that her dad says, "scooters were for poofs and that is him on that bike there." Hey Ho, even a shagged out gutless ole 500 has it's moments. The joys that await you are many and various. Don't alter the fact that it will continue to be a worry though.