Blog: fzzt pop. (SORN MOT stuff)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by cat, Nov 21, 2008.

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    cat Guest

    Well, I was going to post a big rant about sodding electrics.
    But now I'm feeling cleverer.

    The 'city light' in my headlight had gone pop, probably a death from my
    rectifier failure, it certainly was a nice black colour inside the glass.

    I wobbled my way to halfrauds to get a displacement. They matched me up
    sort of with a bulb, which after I fiddled with it I discovered doesn't
    have the bayonet fittings 180 degrees from each other, it's jammed
    itself in the socket, but it lights up so 'ho hum'. It's not a bulb I
    use, but I imagine it has to be there and functioning for an MOT.

    After wedging the front end back together I wiggled a few switches and
    found I had a single non working indicator. "fucking fucketty ****"
    thinks I, and rides home aggressively (yay fun) without any signaling.

    I wedged a multimeter in the terminals for the indicator and got a non
    infinite resistance, shoved the meter into the loom and pressed the
    flashy button to see the voltage wobble about.

    A bit of WD40 in each side of the connector a firm wiggle and I have
    lights all over the place, so I'm ready for christmas as well as an MOT.

    Woohoo, I think it just needs booking in now.

    If I can't get a slot before the mot runs out, I don't need to SORN do
    I? That's only for tax(which is has), I just have to drag it off the
    public highway until the MOT test is passed, right?
     
    cat, Nov 21, 2008
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    Eiron Guest

    Just try not to get pulled by the fuzz, and get a new MOT before the tax
    runs out.
    No MOT isn't an endorsable offence so why worry about it?

    And get the right bulb for your headlight.
     
    Eiron, Nov 21, 2008
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    cat Guest

    My irrational fear? I'm quite neurotic, it keeps me slim.
    Why? It's the shitty little light that's mounted way way off axis to
    spill light inside the reflector, it's like the parking light or something.
     
    cat, Nov 21, 2008
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    Pip Guest

    I'd never have guessed.
    Whilst I can see your point, I guess it is what we of the Old School
    would refer to as a sidelight. It is in fact a Statutory Light and
    needs to function for the MoT test and is of limited use thereafter.
    Your description of it in the OP as a "city light" caused a raised
    eyebrow though - what's one of them, then?
     
    Pip, Nov 21, 2008
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    cat Guest

    Quote from bible:

    Headlight Circuit (Other than Australia, ER500-C1 ~ C2)
    item 7 Headlight (shown on diagram as dual coil three wire unit)
    item 8. City Light (shown on diagram as off center single coil two wire
    unit)

    Its the one that comes on with the first click of the headlight
    selector. It lights the front, but doesn't illuminate the road.
    Second click gives dip beam. other switch flicks from dipped to main
    beam, and a third gives a momentary main beam for dazzling oncoming
    trucks. It currently does function, it's just not the 'correct' bulb.

    To add to this, the switches on the left hand side unit are a bit fussy,
    which might cause problems at MOT, I'm tempted to open it up and see
    what's crawled in and died in there. Does the FOAK have any advice for
    simple cleaning and freeing of switchgear?
     
    cat, Nov 21, 2008
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    Eddie Guest

    Which side is it on, mister?
    It's a light you can use in cities, where there's street-lighting so you
    don't need the headlight to see where you're going.
     
    Eddie, Nov 21, 2008
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    cat Guest

    I'll help Pip out, it's on the underside of the light housing.
     
    cat, Nov 21, 2008
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    crn Guest

    Squirt in a load of WD40 and work the switch a few dozen times.
    If this fails stop wasting time and get a new switch.
     
    crn, Nov 21, 2008
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    Eddie Guest

    Spoilsport.
     
    Eddie, Nov 21, 2008
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    Ben Guest

    I'm quite partial to the argument that that should be the law that
    anywhere there is streetlighting you should only use sidelights and
    not headlights.

    You can be seen with sidelights and it would stop things like
    motorcycles, pushbike and pedestrians getting lost in the glare.
     
    Ben, Nov 21, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    IIRC it used to be the case that you were permitted to use only sidelights
    in lighted areas after lighting up time, but the law was changed to require
    full dipped beam.
     
    platypus, Nov 21, 2008
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    ogden Guest

    Eh? I was always under the impression that sidelights were the only
    requirement when driving in a lit area at night. The Highway Code would
    appear to back that up:

    113

    You MUST

    * ensure all sidelights and rear registration plate lights are lit
    between sunset and sunrise
    * use headlights at night, except on a road which has lit street
    lighting. These roads are generally restricted to a speed limit of 30
    mph (48 km/h) unless otherwise specified
    * use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226)

    Night (the hours of darkness) is defined as the period between half an
    hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise).

    [Laws RVLR regs 3, 24, & 25, (In Scotland - RTRA 1984 sect 82 (as
    amended by NRSWA, para 59 of sched 8))]

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070302
     
    ogden, Nov 21, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    Perhaps I imagined it. I've had a bump on the head, you know.
     
    platypus, Nov 22, 2008
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    ogden Guest

    Haven't we all?
     
    ogden, Nov 22, 2008
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  15. It's like a "driving lamp". What most of the rest of the world would
    call a foglamp.

    <Pet Peeve>

    Which only wannabe muppets have on all the time when they are driving
    under the mistaken impression it makes them look sporty.

    </PP>

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 24, 2008
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    Ace Guest

    ITYMB. I remember a pair of Hellas I had on an Astra sometime back in
    the 1980, which came with instructions for use (and wiring) either as
    fog-lights, mounted below a specified height and angled quite low, or
    as driving lights, wired into the main beam, rally-car stylee. It was
    the latter configuration I used, for country-lane driving.

    Of course there's nothing to stop the aforementioned muppets wiring
    them up to dip beam, but as they don't have the correct beam pattern
    they'd be illegal to use that way.

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    Ace, Nov 24, 2008
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Yep. Plus fog lights may only be used when visibility is poor, whereas
    driving lights (wired, as you say to main beam) may be used any time.
     
    Colin Irvine, Nov 24, 2008
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  18. Nope. A 'City Light' is just the manufacturer's name for what we'd
    commonly call a sidelight, but since it's a two-wheeler it's daft
    calling it a sidelight. It might even be one of the higher-powered
    options, ie, more than 5W or a dim-dip, but cat mentioned it's a
    seperate bulb, so is probably 5W.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 24, 2008
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  19. I know. That was my point..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 24, 2008
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    Ace Guest

    Would this be 'running lights' you're thinking of?

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    Ace, Nov 24, 2008
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