Bl**dy 'L - this seems very cheap for an RE-5?

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Iain Ogilvie, Apr 22, 2006.

  1. Iain Ogilvie

    Iain Ogilvie Guest

    Iain Ogilvie, Apr 22, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    Iain Ogilvie said...
    It is cheap, but you try sourcing clocks and indicators, especially if
    it's a later model
     
    Lozzo, Apr 22, 2006
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  3. The later model used instruments nicked straight off the Kettle (not
    sure about the redline position on the tacho, though). It was the early
    model which had the silly bog-roll dashboard.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 23, 2006
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  4. And Oi.

    But that looks like another $10,000 just waiting to be swallowed by it
    on restoration.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 23, 2006
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  5. Iain Ogilvie

    Lozzo Guest

    The Older Gentleman said...
    Easier to find bogroll clocks and spherical indicators from the states,
    the kettle style clocks have a different redline to the triple and they
    didn't make as many so they're rarer. Later model indicators are generic
    Suzuki ones, I admit I got that wrong.

    I found an immaculate GT250 the other day. Shame the bike was shit back
    in 1976 cos this was a peach. 30 years won't have made it any more
    desirable to me.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 23, 2006
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  6. Indeed. I bought one in the early 1980s and it was appalling.

    Tiny power band, dreadful handling, nasty vibes and a voracious thirst.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 23, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    Anton Gijsen said...
    No, if it was an X7 I'd have called it an X7. The GT series ran to 1977
    then the X7 came along in '78, the year I left school and bought a FS1E.

    GTs and X7s were and still are utter shite.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 25, 2006
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  8. Iain Ogilvie

    Anton Gijsen Guest

    Gotcha. Bet you wished you'd held on to/not crashed your Fizzie, eh?
    There's an immaculate rare model in one of this month's classic bike
    mags for... wait for it... £3900 !!!
    That would explain why they're so cheap, then.

    Got any recommendations for a decent air-cooled two-stroke twin which is
    cheap to buy and get bits for and isn't too thirsty on the juice? I
    think that narrows my choice down to something like an RD200.
     
    Anton Gijsen, Apr 25, 2006
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  9. <fx: opens popcorn>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    The RS200 ain't too bad - around 35mpg IIRC.
     
    platypus, Apr 25, 2006
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  11. Iain Ogilvie

    Lozzo Guest

    Anton Gijsen said...
    My little (40 yrs old) sister still owns it and is restoring it with her
    son's help ready for when he turns 16 next year. It's been in our family
    since 1973. This one isn't actually a FS1E, it's an early model and
    badged as a Yamaha SS50. They changed the designation because of the
    Honda bike with the same name.
    There's no such thing as an economical 2-stroke twin, but if you insist
    on buying a stroker then any Yamaha will be your best bet. Mups' RS200
    would be an ideal choice imo, and it's for sale.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 25, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    .... who "borrowed" the design.
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 25, 2006
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  13. Iain Ogilvie

    Anton Gijsen Guest

    off DKW, yes, but they then refined it somewhat. Compare the BHP output
    of D1 Bantams to the late D14/4s and B175s.
     
    Anton Gijsen, Apr 25, 2006
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  14. Iain Ogilvie

    Lozzo Guest

    Anton Gijsen said...
    But they were still shit compared to other manufacturers bikes. No
    matter how much time, money and development BSA could have put in,
    they'd never have matched the Japanese on any level.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 25, 2006
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  15. Iain Ogilvie

    Lozzo Guest

    Anton Gijsen said...
    You are having a laugh. The engineering and material quality is poor by
    anyone's standards.
    Absolute bollocks. You have to ask yourself why they aren't around any
    more. It's mainly down to the fact that what they were building was of
    poor quality compared to what the Japanese were producing.
    There

    was

    nothing

    else

    available

    cheaply

    at

    the

    time.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 25, 2006
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  16. You *what*?

    Materials, yes: for the standards of the day, they were certainly good.
    Workmanship? Appalling. Lawnmower engineering badly put together, on
    geriatric production equipment, by a workforce that didn't give a ****.
    The finish was good, mind.

    But they're not around any more. Can you guess why? Clue: it wasn't
    because their materials and workmanship were superb.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2006
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  17. Iain Ogilvie

    Anton Gijsen Guest

    Yoo 'eard.
    Every bike has its weak points, I'm not saying that every British bike
    is perfect, it's not. I'm not trying to slate Jap bikes, I ride a Jap
    bike and I love it.
    British chrome is fucking superb. I'm rebuilding a Bantam that had been
    stood in a damp shed for 25 years and the only chrome bits I'm replacing
    are the silencer and headlamp rim, i.e. the bits that always get pitted.
    Even the exhaust pipe is in very useable nick. Although I'm not the
    fussiest of people when it comes to that sort of thing.
    It's because of those slitty-eyed folk and their cheap, mass-produced gear.
     
    Anton Gijsen, Apr 25, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    I think our friend here may suffer from the delusion that the
    workmanship on a properly restored Brit bike is in any way related to
    the way it was when it fell off the production line.

    Hint: it wasn't.
    It was because they so willingly embraced new ideas and continued to
    push the envelope, right?
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 25, 2006
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    Anton Gijsen came up with the following;:
    Nope, it's because BSA wouldn't invest, or develop their products to meet
    the challenge of the competition.
     
    Paul - xxx, Apr 25, 2006
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  20. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Anton Gijsen
    So density is a measure of quality for you, is it?

    Figures.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 25, 2006
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