From: Charles Soto <> Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles Subject: Re: Riding last weekend References: <[email protected]> <> <ayK7c.5356$> <> <BNN7c.80$> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.3b1 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: #rMF4)-zIa0fGIOR@>-H=[[EiOH'XJ<Br^xw-4koCzt|pv\k^|YG9Z+:r4iXg QJF"P\5>c[!l;OPci/uvCPLB(BGZA;ag`XJ]A9|4PbTay9K@#-f2V=l^R/, Message-ID: <> Lines: 20 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 03:17:15 GMT NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library1-aux.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:55:47 -0500 (CDT) NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.25.141.221 X-Complaints-To: X-Trace: fe2.texas.rr.com 1080011835 66.25.141.221 (Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:17:15 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:17:15 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Just trying to help. People think you are becoming unglued. Seriously, take a chill pill and go for a ride. As the man with the bullet in him said, "let it be." Charles
I'd say that your re-creation is not quite accurate.. Trash.. The tx.motorcycle group on Google would be more apt to have the "exact" posts and responses in context.. LMAO.. Yessir.. I told Charles Soto to "**** off".. and "thanked him kindly friend".. Charles Soto has met me .. I'm sure he remembers the incident clearly.. What is "your" connection with any part of it, anyway..?? I actually don't see your alias involved in any part of the discussion .. either in Posts or Responses.. What you have here would actually be between Charles Soto and me.. wouldn't it ? Now that you've established such a great memory, please feel free to provide the links to the disgusting porn, references and insults to my wife and while you are at it, you might reference your claim the my son contributed to the death of my grand daughter... So far.. you aren't really doing so good, are you..?? No matter where you'd like to begin, the fact is still standing that you are truly a disgusting piece of Trash .Any involvement of yours on this newsgroup has resulted in just this kind of disgusting behavior.. hmmm.. I can't help but believe, that you just don't know any better..
to which bill claims: that's where it came from. it's completely accurate and totally unchanged. the headers are there to verify it if anyone cares to look it up for themselves. you just can't handle disagreement and that is a perfect example of your irrational responses.
Noticeably.. the non response from you only emphasizes your acceptance that you did, in fact accuse my son of a terrible thing.. I can't imagine a worse thing to be accused of.. than neglecting a your child and causing her death.. Aside from the insults to my wife with your disgusting pornography postings.. you are a disgusting example of the lowest forms of bacteria.. Perhaps equally disgusting is your seemingly disregard of human decency.. Exactly in the form of Texdays. you know that denying that you have done exactly what I say you have done is the final destruction of what little is left of that image you have tried to fabricate.. Newsflash.. Trash.. that image has already evaporated .. Ain't happening on this newsgroup.. Too many people on here know me and have ridden with me and my son.. They've seen your performances on here.. I'll not tolerate trash like you and neither will the substantial and decent people on this "group"..
:friend hmmm... How 'bout that.. Never did deny telling ol' Soto "**** you".. And the little "friend" inclusion definitely was sarcasm on my part..LMAO.. That's still between Soto and Bill Walker, isn't it.? Actually..since you were so enthusiastic in searching Google for all this information, maybe you'd be good enough to pull up and post the comments of John Moran (Another Viewer).. You know.. the ones that expose the detestible trash that I keep using for my intense dislike of him.. LMAO.. The only thing you or John Moran have established is that I told someone who I considered a "friend" to **** off.. And.. that I also don't have a high regard from Albert Nurick.. Whoo.. Hooo.. now that's a newsflash.. I love it.. hmmm.. I've really got you in about the same category with Albert, John Moran and Texdays.. oh.. let's not leave anyone out.. Mark Johnson has started some more of his sleazy shit this week too.. At least . I know they are of the male gender and not some silly little ol' girl..
Yep.. they're all here, alright... We go back a long way, don't we Albert... Damn.. right, pard.. I've sure been a tough cirtic on you, alright.. LMAO..Based on the company you seem to prefer, I don't have to ride with you or to associate with you in any way.. You are one of the least likely to be qualified to advise or offer advice to anyone about character or anything to do with a motorcycle.. Yet.. here you are.. One of the most revealing things about you, Albert is how eagerly you seem to pile into any discussion that seems to have the possiblility of a gang bang involving your so-called friends.. This thread is a very good example.. I've seen you do this very thing since you first appeared on this newsgroup.. Remember this one Albert.. I've made this comment many times over the years.. "I detest a coward.. I hate a bully, and I despise a liar".. not exact but close enough.. You represent the elements of all three.. Albert.. .. The ones that you defend and side with represent all three.. Actually .. Albert.. none of you represent a challenge to anyone because you only practice on a newsgroup and the possibility that you'd pose a threat to anyone is far fetched.. I spent four days in your area.. from out near Cleveland to Galveston and almost to Corpus Christi.. I posted my itinerary on this group with dates.. I also invited you and all your usenet Wannabe friends to look me over in person.. NONE showed... that I am aware of, anyway.. Only one (which turned out to be a silly little girl) who challenged me to meet her in a parking lot, somewhere.. When I asked for a contact number, she didn't have one.. LMAO.. Albert .. this bunch couldn't be bullies on a schoolyard.. Not a chance.. And for damn sure.. this whole crew couldn't be wadded up and thrown in the same city block where they know that I am.. LOL.. Each one of you phonies have had ample opportunity to confront me in person, either one on one or collectively .. Nothing has changed with any of you and you are all still phony as hell and exactly as I have described.. In my opinion, of course.. You are definitely a coward, Albert.. you expose yourself as a coward anytime you use my name and claim that you are shielded with a Killfile.. You are a liar, Albert.. you represent that you are a biker.. each of your silly posts expose that you have no idea of the brotherhood and fellowship that is enjoyed by REAL bikers.. You are a wannabe bully, Albert.. because you attempt to engage in a gang fight when you sense that one is about to take place.. Again.. your contribution in this thread is a good example.. You have no clothes, anymore ..Albert.. You are a pitiful and whimpering little boy, that has been bitch slapped and exposed.. you just aren't smart enough to realize it. So .. we'll dedicate another two months on this newsgroup.. reading about yours and this little elite group's complaints about mean ol' Bill Walker, abusing all you "poor things".. Relative good issues have been explored and discussed amongst the REAL bikers and DECENT people for a couple of months, while your detestible little crew regrouped.. Apparently.. that isn't to your liking, so HERE WE GO AGAIN.. Okay .. Albert.. "Bring it on"..
Whew... I guess you been lying about the "killfile" thing all these other times you've made that juvenile little "threat"... Lawd .. save us from the retributions of Albert's killfile thingy...
Nah... Just a screwy crew that has the impression that they represent a majority on this newsgroup.. LOL.. Just a little background .. hdrider.. I was under the mis-understanding that Charles Soto was a friend at one time.. Then he blindsided me with this same bunch of, as you aptly call them "welfare riders".. Sure helps knowing what kind of friend Soto turned out to be.. He won't blindside me again.. His good buddies posted the thread where I told him to get Fucked..Interesting to notice that Soto jumped into the discussion without me addressing him in any way.. His good buddies brought him into it again this time.. LMAO.. These fools are trying to convince each other that I have just ruthlessly attacked them.. Ain't it a hoot how the children play ? I'm interested to know how the "rodeo" worked out last weekend.. Sorry .. I just couldn't get my ass down there.. I made a run at it and cratered..Blame it on my age and feeble condition.. Just couldn't seem to locate a rickshaw to haul my old ass another furthur.. Whooo... Hooo.. Thanks for the good words.. Catch you later.. Your friend in Irving Bill Walker
That was my conclusion too. In spite of working hard to initially discuss various viewpoints, the explosions of irrationality to any difference of opinion tilted the balance the wrong way.
hmmm... Nah.. he didn't think "wrong".. I'm not sure what you consider "historical rewrite" or WHO was "attempting" it.. Most everyone who is on this newsgroup now, was on it, then.. <grin> Seems to me like a sputtering spark.. Noticeably.. ol' John Moran (who is obviously very sleazy, IMO) responded to Albert Nurick's(who is a juvenile little halfwit, IMO) little appeal to crank up and continue with a flame war.. Ol' John Moran (disgusting lil' pervert, IMO) decided to enlist some input from Charles Soto (who is just a wormy little shit, IMO) who I told to get fucked one time on this newsgroup.. Now.. here you come, Mark Johnson, who wants to be called "Bownse", for some reason (also a sleazy little phony, IMO) to encourage the games of the flame war to begin.. Even though he hasn't posted on this group for several weeks, you trashy ol" mess, keep attacking Brina Walker (who is my son.. that's not IMO, that's fact) This is really just a reflection of what kind of cowardly trash all of you are.. You ALL will attack a man's wfe, mother or children on a newsgroup.. You will ALL attack a man and accuse him of molesting a child, when you have never laid eyes on him or the adult child.. You will ALL accuse a man of neglecting a child and causing it's death, even though you know nothing of the circumstances or grief to that family for the loss.. You ALL will then participate in a vicious gang up on one, and you will ALL defend each other on a newsgroup..And that includes Mr. Charles Soto who I once respected and considered a friend..Charles Soto once commented on this newsgroup "you are a good friend".. I responded and told him to look in a mirror.. hmmm.. how'd that change ? John Moran has been tolerated by me on this newsgroup, but his posting of the disgusting porn sites he frequents.. (not that I have anything against a few naked ladies) but this guy is disgusting.. caused me to have reservations about his credibility a long time ago.. Mark Johnson was welcomed back to this group, by me.. after he'd indulged in surfing other groups for a long while.. When Mark commenced going after people about their political views on gun control.. I challenged Mark and it rapidly deteriorated to another flame war.. During this time, he declared his affiliation with a franternity which I have also been active in, and know quite a bit about .. first hand.. Mark Johnson claimed that he is a Mason.. Furthur exchanges with Mark determined that he didn't have even basic knowledge of the Masonic Order and would not be admitted to any Masonic Lodge, anywhere.. When he realized that he was exposed as a phony Mason, he refused to even discuss it furthur, claiming that Masonic "authorities" had "ordered" him not to.. LMAO.. Masons don't "order" each other.. This exchange evolved from a challenge by me to ride both Mark Johnson and John Moran into the ground on our motorcycles.... Both claim to hold awards and membership in long distance riding groups such as Iron Butt Association.. Considering both these men posers and phony's, the double talk commenced and I agreed to participate in a Scottish Rite sponsored ride called Waltz Across Texas.. Even though the cost is prohibitive $200.00.. I stipulated that I'd participate in that ride provided that they'd peg up with me.. Side by side, we'd ride that puppy till there was one rider left.. Whew.. that stipulation entailed a multitude of problems for both these guys.. Problems that turned out to be as phony as they both are.. I'm mentioning the Waltz Across Texas ride because another of this "elite group" has chosen to interpret my conditional ride as a means to "back out" as she claims.. It should be noted that I canceled a ride with a good friend in order to make these arrangements with these "posers" Be that as it may.. I see no useful purpose in any challenge that has no bearing on the claims made.. I did not challenge the Waltz Across Texas ride.. I challenged Mark Johnson and John Moran.. Damn.. I'm seventy years old.. if these two chicken shits are so sorry that they'd be scared to compete with me in any event, they can't say much in defense of their fitness to ride or anything else.. Then the issure of "conspiracy delusions" they've thrown around quite a bit.. I've never mentioned "conspiracy" in this thread .. Since it's their idea, I wonder how they got it ? Nah.. this crew is posers and wannabe's.. Even their sincerity with each other is counterfeit.. These clowns would devour their own, if it means survival of the image they'd like to project.. Time and again, I've offered to end this nonsense.. Time and again, these contemptible morons have persisted in coming back to wage the same old flame war.. This time .. They've chosen Charles Soto to engage in this silly mess.. Last time they chose ol' Texdays.. and he is detestible enough that he fell for it.. Little as I think of Charles Soto, I don't think he will.. Matter of fact .. based on my past experience with Soto, he'll turn on this trash... as intelligent as I believe he is, he'll eat their lunch.. Maybe I'm wrong about him again.. We will just wait and see, won't we..?? Bill Walker Irving, Tx.
That inclusion in your sig line is entirely uncalled for.. Whoops... mine is a GMC.. same family but a different name.. LOL.. been known to step in various things, though... You done shocked the hell out of Albert.. He didn't know that "everyone" has access to Google.. damn.. ain't that a shocker... <chuckle> Stay safe .. bud.. Your friend in Irving Bill Walker
BW's attempts at revisionist history would make joseph stalin/george orwell proud. He blows out a "friendship" simply because the friend asks him to calm down and BW responds to that request with a FU. Not playful, but vindictively, to someone who was acting like a friend and trying to help out. They had met and ridden togther iirc, as have others that BW now hates and derides. Then later BW tries to deny that he was offensive, claiming he only "scolded" charles, but he was called on that with the original text and again shown to be crass and insulting for no reason. the interesting thing is BW had jumped into a thread originally talking about bikes with his only purpose to insult Albert. that is what prompted Charles to ask BW to chill out from that nonsense and that earned Charles the FU from Bill. Charles is one of the nicest people here, opening his house and hosting a BBQ during the ROT rally for readers of the newsgroups. He doesn't deserve that sort of treatment. Now BW wants to twist my challenge to ride the Waltz rally. Bottom line on that is BW didn't show and he backed out beforehand right here on the newsgroup. When directly challenged if he would ride it to back up his own claim that he "could ride you into the ground", he hemmed and hawed for weeks, cursing, lying, insulting, threatening violence and ducking the direct question but when pressed to answer with a simple yes or no, he finally had to say "absolutely no". That's why he's so pissed; he opened his mouth once too often, got called on it and couldn't back it up. He's hated anyone involved ever since even though he brought it on himself. It's amazing the number of people he has alienated, people who had previously been friendly to him and gave him the opportunity to return it. Bill's got some mental issues, no question.
Anything that I've said to John Moran was well deserved and very understated..With all the wobbling around you do, AV .. John Moran, or whoever you are this week.. Let's get back to the reason that I despise your sorry fat ass.. You are one extremely aritificial and phony poser that is the lowest form of trash in Texas.. LOL.. The very idea that you represent anything resembling decency has been displayed by you for months on this newsgroup.. I didn't do that to you.. YOU did.. Anyone offended by my language would certainly not be some pervert that frequents the detestible porn sites which you prefer.. The audacity to insult someone's wife by suggesting she is included in one of the photos, is across that line of decency that most people have drawn.. So far.. you are falling far short of being someone who would even be acceptable to anyone.. When you accused a man of neglecting his child and contributing to her death, you REALLY exposed the filth that you surely ARE.. Those two examples of your trash on this group is enough, and that doesn't include the fact that you are a liar, as well.. One other point.. If someone said these things about me on a public newsgroup, which this is.. and read by as many people as read this group.. I'd turn Texas upside down till I found him and thrashed his ass... I'd be delighted to post my address for you, to make your task easier.. Bill Walker Irving, Tx.
Damn.. that is a lot of trouble to go to for something this ridiculous.. but I appreciate your friendship.. Most of the people who participate on this newsgroup have been here long enough to have read all this trash, over and over.."Who shot John" is not what this is all about anyway.. Mark Johnson and John Moran (Another Viewer) have participated in almost every newsgroup in usenet that has to do with guns and motorcycles..Texdays .. also.. These guys have pretty well been run off from each group..The Harley group is especially bitter towards ol' Texdays for about the same crap he has pulled on tx.motorcycles.. John Moran and Mark Johnson have both been involved with another of that "elite" little group E.O.B. A private group was formed and they were all active over there for a while.. Damn.. it was impressive, or so I'm told.. They had a monitor and everything.. The little social club soon became boring to them all and commenced to fall apart for lack of participation.. These guys soon drifted back onto tx.motorcycles .. For whatever reason, I became a "threat" when Another Viewer attacked IceMan over a trivial mistake that wasn't Another Viewer's business anyway.. The idiot tried to impress everyone about his expertise with computers and instruct IceMan about posting pictures .. IceMan followed his idiotic instructions and damn.. it was funny, but all hell broke loose.. Ol' Another Viewer started calling IceMan some silly names and .. well.. you know the IceMan.. That's when I got into it.. Since then, that pervert son of a bitch has accused me and my son of everything but being axe murderers.. It has escalated off and on, by the rest of those clowns jumping on here, everytime Mark Johnson and John Moran take their next little flame war to another level.. LMAO.. The funny part is, that as much as I run around this state and am so visible, and as many people who know me and have ridden with me, these guys actually believe that anyone would take their bullshit serious.. Seems to me, if I hated anyone as bad as they claim to hate me and my son, I'd be trying to figure out some way to whoop some ass or get whooped trying.. Anything to just get some relief.. LOL..I've even posted my home address on this group when things would get too intense.. I went to the extent of knocking on John Moran's door, when he pulled the shit about my son and grand daughter.. No answer.. Some guy who lived nearby, told me that no one had seen ol' John for a few days..hmmm.. wonder if he heard I was coming, or what. ? Yeah.. I think I posted my itinerary on this group.. Mark Johnson has talked a lot about all his exploits, but again.. noticeably Mark doesn't seem to have anyone who has ridden with him outside the little E.O.B. group.. Mark Johnson made some noise about he'd straighten out the TMRA II group.. I invited him to a meeting.. His response was that he doesn't do Dallas.. When I suggested the meeting was in Ft.Worth, where he lives, he evidently doesn't do Ft.Worth, either.. If memory serves me .. he disappeared from the group for a while..None of these guys ever go to rallies and each one has his own story about why.. It is my opinion that they won't go ANYWHERE that they might be around REAL bikers.. Mark Johnson claims he won't go to a TMRA II meeting or a rally because the DRINK.. Did you notice a bunch of drunks at the meeting you went to ? I've got my first drunk to see at any of the meetings that I've attended.. If memory serves..again..they've insinuated that I am a drunk.. No one on this group or anywhere else has ever seen me drink more than a beer or two.. in an afternoon.. These guys are desperately trying to regain some semblance of the phony images they've projected and to re-habilitate the screw ups that exposed them ..I'd have more respect for them, if they'd just back off or apologize for their detestible bullshit.. I've even offered that just to get everyone off the hook of having to read all this bullshit.. That's it .. my friend ... Thanks for letting everyone know where you and I stand.. Regard to everyone... Your friend in Irving Bill Walker
LOL.. Been there, done that .. lately.. Rebuilding a transmission deep in the heart of Mexico.. Thanks pard, glad you reminded me.. Your friend in Irving Bill Walker
You are a cute little fellow and almost "funny".. Maybe so.. GRIEF.. that's when you stand at the graveside of one of your loved ones and give them up.. That's when one of your own is diagnosed with cancer and it is inoperable..The doctors inform the family to prepare to give him up.. That's GRIEF.. What you seem to refer to as grief is completely juvenile and silly.. Albert.. you and your sleazy little playmates are a pleasure to expose as Wannabe's and Posers.. Please be advised.. just as in this thread.. you are never too far away from "shit slinging".. What chaps your silly litte buns is that when you and your sleazy little playmates sling it in my direction, you get it back in spades ... LOL I've never attacked anyone's family because I'm mad at them.. You and your little playmates seem to think that is the "norm" and a perfectly natural reaction from you.. The lengths you go to, just to defend each other's actions would be comical, if it weren't so pathetic.. You kids would be dangerous, if you could muster the backbone to venture away from a keyboard.. <chuckle> Meantime ... I will be here, Albert.. not going anywhere.. We'll play until you sleazy little creeps decide to regroup again.. Then me and the good people on the group will resume with the fellowship we enjoy .. till you guys decide to move back in for another attempt.. I'll still be here..
I see why you all get along and were able to become such good friends in a short while. You share the same level of reading comprehension, and ability in the character judgment department. That is a good thing. People need new friends, especially if they have a high turnover ratio. ....louie