Bikers, Rookies and Geeks

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Bill Walker, Jul 11, 2005.

  1. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Just sitting here musing about the Biker scene, from the 1950's to the
    current day and time.. whew.. That's a lot of musings, isn't it ?

    We've all watched the great movies of the '50's era . where Marlon Brando
    and company invaded a small town and terrorized them .. We've seen the films
    where Peter Fonda rode his custom ride across the country.. and so on..

    We've read about the exploits and awe that groups like Hell's Angels
    instilled on Americans, everywhere.. No one has been immune and everyone,
    whether they'd sat on one of these two wheeled monsters, or not.. has heard
    about Hell's Angels, Boozefighters .. Bandidos and other clubs of reknown..
    Some of us .. who were of age, during that time .. actually knew some of the
    personalities that contributed to the folklore.. hmmm.. not many of us left,
    but a few.. Most of us left, who were around at the time, didn't ride.. but
    we saw a lot of those events that have become so infamous.. Damn.. wasn't
    that one helluva time to be alive ? Yeah.. it really was..

    Many of us didn't get into the motorcycle scene until later in our lives..
    That was shortly after the ground floor had already been established, but
    yet.. it was a long time ago.. We've seen motorcycles which could not be
    imagined during those early years, being sold by dealerships all over town..
    The early shops seemed to be a run down .and ramshackle building which no
    one else wanted to put a business in.. Or.. someone might have a garage
    where his buddies would come to, to use the tools and swap enough parts to
    keep that old sled running.. I'm reasonably sure that many lies were also
    swapped and stories were shared.. Quite a bit of beer was consumed and more
    than one joint was shared, as well..

    The fancy and impressive motorcycle came along and things began to change..
    Even the types of people who were dedicated to their motorcycles began to
    evolve.. We began to see things on display in these motorcycle stores, that
    we'd never dreamed would be sold in such a place.. Sex appeal began to
    attract an expanded market place .. The ladies began to get involved with
    the machines, so loved by their husbands. Motorcycle social clubs began to
    be organized and in the style of the Hell's Angels, Boozefighters and
    Bandidos..the loyalty of their memberships were so compelling, that if one
    wasn't a member of one of the clubs, he just wasn't "happenin"

    The motorcycles evolved, also.. They were no longer two wheels with an
    engine.. that demanded constant repair to keep it running.. Back in the
    day.. a run consisted on average of just a few miles and it required
    accompanying vehicles carrying tools and a supply of replacement parts..
    Back in the day, however.. an emergency repair could consist of a bent nail,
    a piece of wire with tools like a small hammer, crescent wrench and a pair
    of pliers.. Points, condensers and such could be bought in any auto parts
    store and usually were some kind of chevy or ford components.. The chase
    vehicle on the ride would carry a can or two of gas and a few cans of motor
    oil.. In an extreme emergency.. siphoning hoses could be used to siphon up a
    coke bottle full of oil from several different bikes and the same hose could
    share up enough gasolene to get in someplace..

    Nowadays.. our dealerships display a multitude of ladies apparel, jackets,
    chaps and goodies that are sexy.. Cigarette lighter, ashtrays and various
    other doodads are readily available, as well.. If you are in need of some
    insignificant little part, to make a minor repair to that shiny marvel of
    chrome and engineering genius, that part will have to put on order .. It
    will take from two days to two months for that parts department to get it..
    Dammit.. everything we need, is somewhere else.. If these folks are in the
    motorcycle business, why don't they have parts for that sucker that we
    bought from them.? I don't need none of that ladies underwear, my
    wife/girlfriend wears bloomers or some such.. Beside .. if she wants
    something like that, she can go to K-Mart, Sears or Target to buy it..
    Dammit .. I don't want her in my motorcycle store shopping for lingerie,
    when I gotta fix that damn thing..

    Then we get to the present day bikers.. Some old boy comes into some good
    credit or a chunk of money.. Now's the chance.. he gets himself on down to
    the local dealership, plunks down his money and rides out on that shiny, new
    marvel of the motorcycle industry.. All of sudden.. he discovers that damned
    thing ain't as easy to ride as it looks like when he's been watching all
    those road hands pass him on the way to work.. With all his childhood
    experiences on his scooters and bicycles, he's straddled up on a rumbling
    monster of technology that's going to kill his silly ass.. Besides .. he
    can't even hold that sucker up when he stops for a redlight.. Not to mention
    all those damned cars out there that have him in the crosshairs..
    Whoa..what's all this about, anyway ?

    The electronic age is amongst us, now and it seems like every geek that
    working for one of those computer places has been surfing the 'net, while
    his boss isn't looking.. All those sites that describe them and has those
    pictures of motorcycles on the site, are an attractive source of time
    passing time.. Next thing we know, these guys hit the dealership to make the
    purchase... who the hell could resist, anyway ?

    Now.. we got a dukes mixture on two wheels.. We got a bunch of those old
    hands that have been piddling with motorcycles for most of their lives.. We
    got a group of yuppies with more money than sense..And a bunch of geeks that
    have trouble chewing gum and walking ..Somebody said.. "If you are on two
    wheels, you can't be all bad".. so, everyone is welcome and happy..
    Especially those dealers..

    All of a sudden, Joe Public has a near miss or something with one of these
    "bikers" and the attention gets intense.. Something has to be done about
    those guys on bikes, sheesh they are dangerous.. The public get organized to
    do something about all this swarm of motorcycles on the public thorofares
    and next thing we know, all kinds of laws go on the books to protect the
    public and those bikers, from themselves..

    Some old boy decides that a lot of money could be made in the protective
    clothing and safety equipment for motorcycles and another industry is born..
    Another dude decides that someone needs to send all those yuppies and geeks
    to school and educate them about how to ride those damned things, anyway..
    Another industry is born.. Some of our states have even passed some laws
    that require riders to attend those schools, before they'll get a motorcycle
    endorsement on their licenses.. Aw well, guess the state needs a piece of
    the action, too..

    Many of those geeks and yuppies decide that the old fool that's been
    piddling with motorcycles for most of his life has been doing it all wrong..
    Just take a look at that idiot, he just ain't got no taste for fashion or
    anything.. what the hell could he know.. That moron don't wear a helmet and
    his britches don't match his t-shirt.. What a disgrace to the designer
    brands.. right ? Never mind that the old fool can take that motorcycle
    apart and put it back together in his sleep.. Just because he's rode that
    thing all over the world without so much as a skinned elbow, he needs to be
    wearing a $400.00 designer helmet with matching body armor.. and boots..
    Besides all that, he ain't never been to school for biker education
    classes.. By God, that dude needs to conform or get off the road.. One of us
    geeks/yuppies needs to teach him how to ride a freaking motorcycle.. Besides
    ...these satellite motorcycle industries needs the money..

    Well .. boys and girls.. that's about it, in a nutshell.. Let's just call it
    progress and technology.. I'll buy that..

    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 11, 2005
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    Bill Walker Guest

    hmmm.. Good post JailCall, my friend.. I ride with the ghosts from my past,
    every time I get on this old Vulcan.. <grin> As you get older, like me..
    those ghosts grow in number and I count my blessings to have known each one
    of them.. Along with all of them and a lot of good fortune, I've survived
    over all these years and I'm grateful.. That and $1.35 will buy me a cup of
    coffee in most good coffee shops.. LOL..

    I do miss those days when we could enjoy our freedom and pleasure on these
    things.. That was a time when things were not so complicated.. Some of the
    riders I met up with on this latest trip to Arizona were more concerned with
    which bikes they could outrun or out perform.. Some of them were more
    concerned about their electronic gizmos their rides were equipped with..
    Hell.. if they didn't know where they were going and how to get there,
    what'd they leave home for ? The sterios had some problems and the two up
    wasn't getting sound quality that she wanted to listen to.. Or..the CB radio
    was cutting out.. something was terribly wrong.. Sheesh.. one of the reasons
    why I ride is to get away from most of the silly conversations and noise in
    everyday life.. I don't have to ride a motorcycle in that blast furnace heat
    to listen to it.. sheesh...

    Those old ghosts are always with me, though.. Someway .. they'll let me know
    in time.. there is some kind of danger out there for me to be on the lookout
    for.. Somehow.. they'll tap my shoulder to tell me.. "Slow down, Walker,
    that semi is about to lose that load he's hauling" or there is loose gravel
    ahead of me...

    When you pass that graveyard where your Dad is resting, give him a little
    wave and salute.. He's riding with you, now.. He'll be looking out for you
    until you join him on that highway that he owns.. So will all those friends
    of his.. Take care my friend, sure hope I didn't bore you too much with my
    ramblings..

    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 11, 2005
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  3. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    I'd sure hate to try to argue that one.. LOL.. Honda and their marketing
    sure made an impact on the motorcycle world, alright.. Up till then, most
    people would just kinda admire and drool over those Harley's and such, when
    they'd see them on the road.. Everyone wanted one, but they were mostly
    occupied with raising families and making a living.. "Someday" was about as
    close as they'd come to it..

    Honda came into the market and made it possible to put one of their bikes in
    everyone's driveway.. didn't they ?

    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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    Wakko Guest

    Actually, yuppies (if you can call them that...long ago) have been riding
    Harleys as long as Harleys have been sold.

    Ford made cars and trucks affordable and made
    motorcycle-as-mainstream-transportation obsolete. Motorcycles became objects
    of enthusiasts...those that could afford one.

    How many times have you seen vintage pictures of a guy on a bike wearing a
    suit and tie?
     
    Wakko, Jul 13, 2005
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  5. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Who pointed that out, Chubby ? hmmm.. I haven't noticed that anyone has
    even acknowledged all that "it's for the best" bullshit of yours.. <evil
    grin> I do hear a lot of "the good old days" though.. Pussies like you
    aren't anything to point to and say "that's better"

    Motorcyclists are
    That's sure no thanks to the Albert Nuricks that are trying ride their
    crotch rockets, is it ? The ones who are responsible for the motorcycling
    life you enjoy so much.. if you ever learn to ride one, that is.. are those
    Biker who ride to the state capitol and fight for legislation that benefits
    everyone on a bike.. They are the ones that you holler about being outlaws
    and outcasts.. **** you, Nurick
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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  6. Bill Walker

    Wakko Guest

    I know that's true! I, for one, have a billet aluminum chrome plated
    cigarette lighter on my bike that I bought for $100.

    I said to myself "$100 bucks for a cigarette lighter?! You gotta be shitting
    me! (but *I* *must* *have* *one*!).
     
    Wakko, Jul 13, 2005
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  7. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Nah.. Nurick is talking about all those pictures that were taken in January
    when Bikers from all over Texas went to Austin to fight for the rights of
    motorcyclists Nurick isn't smart enough to realize that many of the State
    Representatives and Senators from his own area, are members of TMRA 2 and
    support their issues.. Somehow.. Nurick has become a majority of one, in his
    mind.. Everyone else is delusional..

    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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  8. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Ain't that the gospel truth.. LOL

    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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    Bill Walker Guest

    Hot dammit, Waco.. I want me one of them... LOL
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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  10. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    hmmm.. When was it that Albert Nurick decided to get involved in motorcycles
    ? Course, I'm sure you were kinda behind the curve..weren't you ?
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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  11. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Damn Nurick .. this little old thread I posted, has hit you pretty close to
    the house, hasn't it ? hmmm... Parts of it did describe you, I guess..
    even though I didn't have you in mind when I wrote it..hahaha
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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  12. Bill Walker

    BJayKana Guest

    (Bill Walker writes)
    ‘‘Just sitting here musing about the Biker scene, from the 1950's to
    the current day and time.. whew.. That's a lot of musings, isn't it ?
    We've all watched the great movies of the '50's era . where Marlon
    Brando and company invaded a small town and terrorized them .. We've
    seen the films where Peter Fonda rode his custom ride across the
    country.. and so on..’’

    I, bjay, snipped some, but enjoyed all)
    On down you commented about when the yuppies types, started buying
    Motorcycles. I think they actually contributed a good deal to our
    pleasures of the current times.
    I think, the soCalled yuppies came along about 1990, or earlier.
    Honey, and I were in Hot Springs about 92. And we just happened to be
    there during a HOG Rally.
    I hadnt owned a Bike since about 88 at that time. Well sir, we were so
    impressed with all the new motorcycle apparel.
    How good the Bikers looked in the complete leather, on down. Most of
    those Harley riders, probably were in their 40's and up to around 50 yrs
    old, it looked to us.
    About 3 years ago, I got back in the saddle again. And I couldnt wait
    to get me the Leather goods. I enjoy wearing the leather. I am a cold
    weather motorcyclist, I rode a little yesterday, and it is entirely too
    hot for me. I won't be riding out of town till september.
    Back in my hayDay, no one wore leather, hardly. it was Blue Jean
    jackets. I wore one of my AF Flight Jackets.
    I didn't have a faring on my first Wing, nor did I have Bags. I had a
    regular size Wind Shield and a sissy bar.
    Tony and I loaded up camping gear, and packed a Boy Scout type pack that
    had the bars enforcements, and rode to Colorado. We tied our sleeping
    bag on, where we could lean against it. heehee!
    A few in those days, wore somekind of Company Logo Jackets, I think.
    Our first rain gear, were black leaf bags, but later did better.
    Bill, your article here, made me have video flash back of me and my
    friend Big Tony.
    One time, going into Memphis, about three tough looking (they thought)
    old club bikers came up behind us. They were mostly riding the Little
    ole 1000 Sportsters.
    They insenuated with a hand jester,that we should pay attention, and Big
    Tony, from Greenwood Miss, looked over at me, and pointed let's Go.
    I was on my GL1000, and he on his 900
    Kawasocki. Well sir, we jestered back at em, and hooked em'. We merely
    tootled on. That was that.
    We noticed quite a bit of smoke behind us, as they disapeared in our
    mirriors.
    We were on our way to Knoxville to find a KOA, by 6:00 pm., didnt have
    time to chat with the Biker friendlies of Memphis.
    (bjay)
     
    BJayKana, Jul 14, 2005
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  13. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    hehehe.. That's what I thought.. It's that imaginary majority that you think
    you live in..
    LOL.. That's what I told the dude I took it away from.. hmmm He's a usenet
    buddy of yours, as I recall...
    ROTFL... Bad hair day, huh ?
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 14, 2005
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  14. Bill Walker

    BJayKana Guest

    ‘‘Mr.Homa wrote:
    I'll tell you one of the ways you can tell how popular motorcycles have
    gotten is the price of accessories especially the dealers. Some of the
    smallest and cheapest things have got the most ridicules prices.


    ‘‘I know that's true! I, for one, have a billet aluminum chrome
    plated cigarette lighter on my bike that I bought for $100.
    I said to myself "$100 bucks for a cigarette lighter?! You gotta be
    shitting me! (but *I* *must* *have* *one*!).

    (Wakko)


    ‘‘I don't think I'd told, that, naw, don't think I'd tooolllld,
    thaaat’’.!. (bjay)
     
    BJayKana, Jul 14, 2005
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  15. Q: what's the HD on the piece of chrome stand for ?

    A: hundred dollah...
     
    another viewer, Jul 14, 2005
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    Vito Guest

    Fact is the people who bought Hondas back then already wanted motorcycles
    but their momas wouldn't let them. The song went "No! There will be no
    motorcycles in this house! You can have a Honda, but NO motorcycles!" Note
    that they all bought H-Ds after moma died some 25 years later and "became
    bikers" but they're still the "nicest people". No trains or diet pills at
    their parties.
     
    Vito, Jul 14, 2005
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  17. Bill Walker

    Vito Guest

    Naw. First it didn't really take off til 1990. When I bought my 1990 FLH
    the dealer immediately knocked $1000 of MSRP, canceled the setup and
    delivery charges and threw in the 5-year warantee. A year later you paid
    full fare and a year after that there was a waiting list. Also, the shovel
    wasn't bad IF you ignored folk wisdom about 90wt oil and instead used a
    multigrade. The oil lines to the head were small so the top end starved if
    you used too thick oil in cold mornings. My 1980 had nearly 100,000 on it
    when I foolishly traded it on a Wide Glide.

    Most young people wanted bikes in the 60s but their parents didn't allow it,
    then their wives didn't allow it. So they hid in the can and read Easy Rider
    for the next 30 years while they raised kids. Then one day they made the
    last mortgage and tuition payment and not only could afford that H-D they'd
    always wanted but could tell the old lady to **** off if she didn't like it.
    There are a million variations on the theme but that's it in a nutshell. It
    wasn't metric riders switching to H-Ds that created the boom in sales, it
    was all the middle aged newbies. Did you know Easy Riders outsold all the
    other bike rags combined during those years even though H-D had only a small
    share of the market? Tells me 99% of their readers were just waiting and
    dreaming.
     
    Vito, Jul 14, 2005
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  18. Bill Walker

    Wakko Guest

    Haw! I don't mind. If I can't reveal my idiocies here, then where better?

    Besides, that lighter made it so I can finally do decent milage on the bike.
    It was killing my time having to stop for a smoke.

    Now....if I can just figure out how to light a cig with full gloves, I'll be
    ready to take Ron Ayres (http://tinyurl.com/bbnno).
     
    Wakko, Jul 14, 2005
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  19. Bill Walker

    BJayKana Guest

    ‘‘I know that's true! I, for one, have a billet aluminum chrome
    plated cigarette lighter on my bike that I bought for $100. I said to
    myself "$100 bucks for a cigarette lighter?! You gotta be shitting me!
    (but *I* *must* *have* *one*!).
                                      (Wakko)

    ''I don't think I'd told, that, naw, don't think I'd tooolllld,
    thaaat''.!.     (bjay)


    ‘‘Haw! I don't mind. If I can't reveal my idiocies here, then where
    better?
    Besides, that lighter made it so I can finally do decent milage on the
    bike. It was killing my time having to stop for a smoke.
    Now....if I can just figure out how to light a cig with full gloves,
    I'll be ready to take Ron Ayres (http://tinyurl.com/bbnno).

    (Wakko)

    ‘‘anuther use for the Lighter, is like my SoNlaw, Randy . He doesn
    smoke but installed a Honda Lighter,for, to charge his cellular. (price
    $11.95) (good idea, huh?, BJAY)
     
    BJayKana, Jul 14, 2005
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  20. Bill Walker

    Bownse Guest

    now that this is being inaccurately hashes out for the billionth time by
    the walkers, i did the oil/filter/final drive last night. had to go to a
    nearby shop to pick up a filter and some crush washers since i'd used up
    my stock with the last change. still plenty of full synth motor and gear
    oil. put in a call for 5 more filters and 15 more crush washers since
    they are about half price of the dealership if ordered from University
    Motors (ask for Gary).

    Of course the swap took all of 30 minutes from tools out to tools up.

    oh yeah... no catastrophic spills of hazardous waste... no lying to the
    wife... no dead landscaping.
     
    Bownse, Jul 15, 2005
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